There's some censorship going on in the newly popular feminist subs and it needs to be openly addressed.

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[–]nonpenishaver 72 insightful - 14 fun72 insightful - 13 fun73 insightful - 14 fun -  (40 children)

The vast majority of men will never be convinced on any feminist issues. It's like trying to convince a cat that it's wrong to hunt mice.

[–]taibo14 31 insightful - 10 fun31 insightful - 9 fun32 insightful - 10 fun -  (39 children)

Giving up before even trying? Yikes.

[–]nonpenishaver 61 insightful - 10 fun61 insightful - 9 fun62 insightful - 10 fun -  (38 children)

Dude I've been at this shit for fucking 10 years lmao. You aren't worth it.

[–]america_first_1776 33 insightful - 10 fun33 insightful - 9 fun34 insightful - 10 fun -  (37 children)

Maybe you're just wrong.

[–][deleted] 48 insightful - 5 fun48 insightful - 4 fun49 insightful - 5 fun -  (18 children)

No, she has a point. A lot of men come into feminist subs in bad faith all the time. (And other spaces, for that matter).

I do think feminist ideology is wrong on some points though.

[–][deleted] 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

She is right. She also wouldn't be able to convince me that 1+1=3, that doesn't mean she would be right about 1+1 being 3. Like she has tried for so many years to convince men about feminist issues. Maybe we're just capable of seeing that her being a woman makes her biased and she's just serving herself by claiming how oppressed she is because she's a woman in a western, secular country. And even if there really were a bit of truth to it... it's just very unappealing self pitying self-victimizing. Her mindset is obviously a much bigger issue than the stuff she's trying to complain about.

Is she really looking for the guys who will accept everything she says and worship the ground she walks on? Or is it all a shit test? https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=shit%20test And maybe she's actually looking for a strong man to put her in her place and to tell her to shut up. Either way it's likely some form of playing games with men while simultaneously makes her feel good to convince herself she's oppressed.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Where did you learn about the term "shit test"?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

1 of my best friends when i was around 18 was pretty into pickup artistry and he taught me it. But i probably would've discovered by myself just from browsing so many different forums and subreddits online.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Ok, so it's a term from the "pickup artistry" community? What is that community about?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Oh you really don't know? How to pick up women, lol.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

OK, I had to chortle over my coffee for that one.

[–]america_first_1776 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

What do you think about Jewish Supremacy?

[–][deleted] 22 insightful - 9 fun22 insightful - 8 fun23 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

It sounds like you want to tell me what you think...

[–]america_first_1776 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Uh. No.

[–]ech 42 insightful - 3 fun42 insightful - 2 fun43 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

IME you do find men who can be convinced, and some of them have become my best friends. But I'm sympathetic to harsh moderation of feminist e-spaces, because it's a numbers game -- you get flooded by tons of men, most asserting the same tedious deflections. Maybe you convince 1 out of 20 -- you're still deluged by 19 shitposts that detract from the theme of your discussion. I'm brand new to this site and one of the biggest free speech zealots you'll meet, but it seems sensible to allow mods of niche subreddits to moderate in favor of their niche themes.

Also, the men I've been able to convince over the years, or with whom I've been able to find common ground, generally distinguish themselves as uncommonly bright and thoughtful from the start, even if they strongly disagree with me. They're not posting 110-IQ manosphere copypasta (which is most of what feminists need to moderate).

[–]america_first_1776 14 insightful - 3 fun14 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 3 fun -  (15 children)

See, you wrote two paragraphs and yet none of it shows that your side is correct. You didn't even give an example of a strawman "copypasta" from the "manosphere" (whatever the hell that means) that you think you can so easily disprove.

[–]ech 24 insightful - 4 fun24 insightful - 3 fun25 insightful - 4 fun -  (14 children)

If you don’t know what I’m talking about, you’re too obtuse (willfully or by no fault of your own) for me to want to engage.

[–]teelo 13 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 4 fun14 insightful - 5 fun -  (11 children)

If you refuse to provide evidence to back up your claims when requested then don't participate on a debate website.

[–]ech 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

Is this a "debate website"? I thought it was an uncensored reddit alternative. "Debate website" sounds tedious, midwitted, and gay.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You might want to read the ToS.

[–]noice 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Look into the origins and intent of this website. It is literally meant as a debate website. There are other alternatives...

[–]Mallard 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You've signed up to somewhere you don't understand. Read the ToS. If you're not comfortable with debate, then this is not the place for you.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

yes, this is a debate website. It isn't reddit, it isn't a safe space for GC weirdos to set up a bunker.

Follow the rules or....

fuck off.

Because we'll be reporting you a lot, until the admins get so pissed off they kick your entitled arses out.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

AF1's rejoinder to ech doesn't even make sense. If you want a debate you have to actually organize your thoughts AND respond to what the other person actually said.

[–]noice 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don't agree =/= 'too obtuse'

[–]ech 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You’re right that these are distinct in many cases. Not sure they’re distinct here.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just maybe you've come to the wrong place, then.

You could learn to ignore the annoying voices, like us right wingers learn to ignore the screeching of harpies.