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[–]zyxzevn 8 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 7 fun9 insightful - 8 fun -  (1 child)

Great work!

[–]magnora7[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks!

[–]GST893 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Being attacked is a sure sign that you are having an effect! Stay strong and keep up the good work.

[–]FormosaOolong 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

[–]magnora7[S] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Hm could very well be. Interesting idea. r/Watchredditdie also just recently took us out of their automod suggested list of alternatives, the day before this interview was done (which I found extremely strange), so there's only ruqqus suggested now. Whereas before it was notabug, saidit, and ruqqus.

The mod who did my interview for that post said that he said another mod removed them because too many options was confusing. Which seems like a flimsy excuse. So the mod who did my interview, is trying to convince the mod who removed saidit from the list, to add saidit back on.

So, it's possible the removal of saidit from the automod list is related to the fact we're getting DDOSd so repeatedly.

However I also remember the day of, or after, that was posted, ruqqus was down for like 8 hours from DDOS as well, so even their favorite was getting attacked. And we chatted with the ruqqus admins and they seemed cool.

It's all pretty weird tbh. And you saw this, right? https://saidit.net/s/Internet/comments/4ve7/large_portions_of_american_internet_suffering/

So it could be something much larger-scale, that has nothing to do with saidit specifically, but maybe just all social media sites. But it might be specific to us too, because I haven't heard anything about wide-scale attacks in a few days, but we're still getting them. So I really don't know what's going on, but you might be on to something! I just know we're pretty well defended now, thankfully. That's the important part.

[–]muyuu 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Ruqqus also under heavy DDoS recently. In fact they're down right now.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Oh wow. Thanks for the info. That sucks. We gave them our script that would help prevent it, but I don't think they were able to use it unfortunately.

There's a lot of DDOSing going around right now, it's pretty out of control tbh. It's gone from being an occasional fringe issue to a central concern in just a matter of weeks, and it sounds like ruqqus is having the same thing happen to them. I wonder how wide-spread this thing really is

[–]kek_dev 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Dev here (kek). Thanks for the code. We still have to implement it; we're currently migrating to AWS. I'm happy to hear your DDOS mitigation is working out well!

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nice, if you all need any help please let me know. I like to help support alternatives

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Someone is just going to call and report you to Amazon and your hosting is gonna get cancelled. Do you know that or not? You can count on it happening, if not tomorrow then in the near future.

[–]benesatto 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you were the awesome guys who did that - thanks! I like ruqqus, saidit too - we need to keep free speech alive

[–]muyuu 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Are these scripts public?

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Hm looks like ruqqus is up now.

They're not public at the moment but they will be eventually part of the open source for saidit, so anyone can make their own site and defend it from ddos.

[–]muyuu 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Partly up at the moment. It's been on life support all day. Mostly down this morning (I'm in UK time).

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gotcha, I hope they're able to stay up

[–]muyuu 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

btw it's down again on my end

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

still loads for me, maybe you're just blocked because they have their anti-ddos measures turned up so high?

[–]muyuu 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

probably location-based, but plenty of people are reporting it in discord too

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ah yeah it just went down for me. They're probably overloaded and their server is failing every other request or something like that

[–]poopsandwich 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

i am not sure if you can do this, but if you had a small budget could you advertise selectively on reddit?

even if you were to advertise on some not terribly active subreddits, it could be massively effective.

what if you were to setup some kind of gofundme to raise some capital for this effort, and then you were to post a link to it here, this way people that frequent saidit could contribute to the advertising of saidit on reddit?

i really want you to win at this, just cuz you are such a nice moderator.

really.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for the idea, I don't want to give reddit any money though. I do like the idea of crowdfunding specifically for advertising though, maybe

[–]muyuu 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They have massive running costs. Some strategic advertising there makes a lot of sense, it certainly won't save their budget.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it's true, but I just can't stomach giving money to the devil haha

Plus it's easy to advertise for free in the comments anyway

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Right on schedule, 24 hours after the last one, there was just another minor attack, this time they tried to attack through tor but couldn't generate significant enough traffic to make an impact. We didn't even block any of the requests, but they made about 30k connection attempts through tor in 1 hour, compared to normal tor traffic of about 1k connections per hour.

[–]killerjavi98 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They hate the freedom of this site.

[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Gee, someone really doesn't like the bizniz we get up to all up in here.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah it's pretty intense this last week, tbh. I think cultural/informational attacks are part of the strategy too (to post content that doesn't technically break the rules but takes the site culture in a bad direction) so I hope the people of saidit realize this aspect is happening as well. Posting and upvoting good content is so important. And thank you especially for doing a good job of that lately

[–]H3v8 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

That means nothing to us. Even if they take the site down for an hour or two, we'll still be here!

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's awesome, you all are the best

[–]takeyourjoyjohn 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I sincerely enjoy the transparency and overall human connection I feel on this site. You're doing incredible work and I appreciate it!

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thank you! I enjoy that aspect of saidit too, it's what I appreciate most. And thank you for contributing to it!

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    [–]muyuu 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    tremendous anti-DDoS

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      [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Yes it is. We had a series of attacks before too about 6 months ago that were almost as bad though

      [–]poopsandwich 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      just fyi, i have never been able to connect to this site using internet explorer using windows 10 nor on android.. i can only connect using tor.

      could you define what is meant by "fraudulent connection attempt"?

      [–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      could you define what is meant by "fraudulent connection attempt"?

      It's an IP doing over 10-100+ pageload requests a second, repeatedly, for minutes or hours. Each request is a fraudulent connection attempt

      Not sure what to say about your problems connecting, I'd need more info I think

      [–]Wrang1er 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Do you have an idea as to who's doing these attacks?

      [–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      I just posted this comment about it about 10 seconds ago: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/4xoi/weve_had_a_ddos_attack_6_of_the_last_7_nights_but/igec?context=3

      Short answer: we have a few hunches, but we don't really know

      [–]HK51 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Yeah, couldn't connect in a while (blocked with Cloudflare on ASN). But Cloudflare... don't forget what happened to 8chan.

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Still cant access mod mail, just get "500 error message 5". Also now when a comment or post gets removed its no longer highlighted in red either. Everything is slowly breaking

      [–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Thanks.

      /u/d3rr should we restart everything and reindex the databases or flush some sub-systems or something

      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      That has all been done, like a week ago.

      [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      I'm on it. That IP2 mirrorbot freakout or SaidIt freakout led to data corruption.

      [–]gof-urself2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      thx

      [–]DevilsAdvocate 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      How many of the DDOS attempts are from logged-in accounts and how many from where not logged in?