Saidit is being DDOS attacked again tonight. Our new anti-DDOS software works!

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[–]Sebine 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

Retards.
Leftists.
Democrats.

You know, the exact same people who say If you don't like X go make your own and then get mad when you do

[–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Half our brigading comes from far-right people, so it's really not a left/right thing, tbh.

It's definitely people who hate that we're operating outside their chosen narrative though. I think it's more likely to be from IP2 to be honest, because the one a couple days ago was definitely from IP2. Some of these streamers are mad people are talking negatively about them, which hurts their viewership numbers, which diminishes their income, so they pay hired people to do a DDOS to try to take down saidit. Tbh that's probably what happened yesterday too

[–]Undiscovered 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

far-right people

How do you know they are not sheep in wolves clothing? (purposefully backwards)

Some of these streamers are mad people are talking negatively about them They shouldn't do things that make people talk negatively lol. Like bringing a drugged/drunk woman into their hotel room while she has her little kid with her. No big deal right?

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I don't know. How do you know the left-leaning or right-leaning attacks come from the right or the left? You can't.

So again, proving the point it's not a left/right thing

[–]Undiscovered 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I just don't think far righters care much about this place. They have their homeland in voat. Lefty types are the one's to say "go somewhere else loser" and then freak out when we find somewhere else.

I do agree that it isn't truly a right vs left issue. It is about open speech vs monitored speech. It is just typically the left wants more monitored speech these days. It used to be the right doing that more. It sucks, because now there is a lack of idea opposition, so the echo chambers are only going to get worse, and the attacks only more vicious as they feel more righteous for their causes.

[–]magnora7[S] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I just don't think far righters care much about this place.

Oh you'd be surprised... I've already had to ban lots of super-far-right people to keep this place's culture from getting hijacked like voat's did.

Lefty types are the one's to say "go somewhere else loser" and then freak out when we find somewhere else.

Yeah I know what you mean, but there's also a dedicated contingency of super-far-right people who want to turn every forum in to voat as a way of spreading their message.

But in the end, both sides of extremists are causing problems for saidit. That's why we were originally named antiextremes.com!

It is just typically the left wants more monitored speech these days. It used to be the right doing that more.

I completely agree there. I think it's just because the right used to have more power over the authoritarian system, and now the left does. So it seems like the censorship moved from the right to the left, when really it's just the same authoritarian structure doing it, run by different groups.

Like this: https://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/956/597/f57.jpg

so the echo chambers are only going to get worse, and the attacks only more vicious as they feel more righteous for their causes.

Yup I agree, the extremists on both sides are going to continue to get more and more hardline. But that's why saidit exists, to be that middle ground that is rapidly disappearing. People who can see the shades of gray on issues are very important to humanity actually getting anywhere culturally, and also important for preventing war. A war cannot be fought if there are no extremists willing to die for it.

[–]Undiscovered 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Well thought out, and based (for the Ben comic). This is a great place, and I will always keep telling people to come here when they seek to somewhere to go. People are getting tired on their own, without the need for any formal recruitment (very good sign). I see people all the time say "man reddit sucks" on reddit, they just need to stop going there and be exposed to the fact that there ARE options.

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes this is Ben back before he became a Trump-cheerleader. I think he actually used to be way more based back then, but I think money got to him and he realized he could get way more visibility and money if he was a Trump guy.

But yeah, you're right, people just need to know about the options. I heard people saying like "I wish someone would make an alternative for reddit!" with 100 upvotes... I want to shout from the rooftops that we've been here for 2 years, and there are other alternatives too!

I always just say "Maybe check out alternatives like www.saidit.net and www.notabug.io"

This 1. Makes it look like I'm not shilling for just saidit 2. Gives them multiple alternatives to try out 3. Is brief 4. Is not pushy 5. Has clickable links

All 5 of those are important to getting the most people to check it out, imo.

[–]Undiscovered 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I can't wait for this point in history to be done. Trumpism ruined a a lot of good people. Hopefully they recover when he is out of office eventually. I only see Ben comics pop up randomly here and there, so I haven't seen his transformation. Gross if it was money, sellouts are the worst. It makes me question if the person ever actually held any of the opinions they represented. Could just be throwing out different nets in hopes they catch a school of fish.

Right now I am suspicious of Ruqqus for that reason. They seem to have a lot of sudden support. I am on there a bit, but the amount of people pushing for THAT to be 'the site' is strange. I agree those 5 are key. People want to have a choice, and they should. We don't live in a world where only one website has be chosen. People just need to open up some more tabs lol

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Trumpism ruined a a lot of good people.

Yes both pro-Trump and anti-Trump people are a little extreme, moreso than any president in my lifetime, and the corporate-owned media encourages this divisiveness in extremely petty ways.

It makes me question if the person ever actually held any of the opinions they represented. Could just be throwing out different nets in hopes they catch a school of fish.

Yeah I know what you mean, and I don't really like his comics anymore. But there were a few from that era that are ridiculously insightful. Usually those are the ones that have been photoshopped by extremists to smear Ben: https://media.wired.com/photos/59446bb3bdf4147696f427d9/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/979.jpg

Like I had to search hard to find the pyramid comic I sent you, instead of the photoshopped one, which is now more widely available. Genuine culture getting hijacked in a smear job, basically.

I'm sure Ben got sick of being portrayed this way, and was probably like "well, if I'm going to get insulted and misunderstood like this anyway, I might as well make lots of money doing it" so he just went full-in on being a Trump guy. That's my theory on Ben Garrison anyway.

Ruqqus is cool and interesting, I agree they did rise up really fast though. Lots of fervent advertising, I agree, I see it everywhere. But that's not necessarily bad, they might just have a vocal userbase. They're still ranked only 161k (as opposed to saidit's 43k rank and notabugs 70k rank), so they're not actually used that much and are still small, but they do have a lot of people pushing it.

The problem with social media alternative is that no one wants to go to an empty social media site, and more content usually means more activity which attracts people. So we wind up with everyone on a few sites. But I think maybe that trend is reversing as people see the value in smaller communities? I don't know. But I do know people are sick of the monoliths of reddit and facebook and so on.

[–]comments 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

how do you feel Trumpism ruined a lot of good people?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just like ruqqus because it isn’t as full of right wing crap

[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

False flags are a common leftist tactic. You can always tell as they speak a ridiculous version of what they imagine the right thinks. It's the result of censorship cutting them off from opposing opinions so they don't know what the other side thinks and don't care either.

It is enough that they are The Other, and making up what The Other actually thinks is standard.

[–]Sebine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Be shit

People talk shit

Views decline

Income declines

Spend lowered income to be cunt

People learn of cunty behavior

People talk shit

Views decline

Income declines

Spend lowered income to be cunt

Big Brain

[–]Undiscovered 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you don't like X go make your own and then get mad when you do

It is because they think no other place will allow us to speak. So when we finally find those places they sperg out about it and do what they can to get that place banned. We are rent free in their heads and I love it. While they are getting shit banned I am making myself stronger both intellectually and physically. They seriously underestimate the strength of a few good men banded together striving for a successful future. Numbers don't matter. Preparation is the key.