The problem that is /s/ice_poseidon2

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[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (20 children)

Good post.

It might also be worth describing from their point of view why they view Ice Poseidon as a problem, if only for fairness and context.

The PNGs are great, though far too wide (consider vertical screens and aim for square). Would be better with the permalink too, in order to see the wider context.

Clearly this is "shit disturbing" drama, but IMO needs to happen. I for one was not aware of this, and so much more I assume, on SaidIt.

Thanks for being someone making an effort on SaidIt.

[–]realister 21 insightful - 1 fun21 insightful - 0 fun22 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

Ice Poseidon is a racist and white supremacist who built his career on racist edgy humor. Now he decided to become an SJW and refuses to acknowledge his past. We just document his racism we do not promote it.

We have all the clips on our sub.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

I know nothing, so my questions are legit, not meant to troll.

Is is possible that he's not SJW, but simply reformed?

If he has changed his ways, why would he want to dwell in such an awkward past?

If he has gone from one extreme to the other, why is he (or anyone) worthy of being harassed? In brief, what harm is he now doing?

Do you use the wiki? /s/ice_poseidon2/wiki You could document all your stuff there, including a FAQ, etc. Might save you time with an easy to point to explanation for stuff. (It's basically just like a shared comment/post document.)

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 3 fun15 insightful - 2 fun16 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

  1. No, he DDOS's this site regularly.

  2. He hasn't changed his ways, he's looking for a platform to continue streaming on because every other one has banned him for being racist or doing disturbing shit on stream.

  3. No one is harassing him. People are just watching him be a moron. His facade still slips every now and again on his current platform and he still says and does disturbing shit.

The dude has flirted, met up with and asked for phone numbers from minors. He's done plenty of racist shit. And because his community, "cX", was large at one point, streamers would flock to him trying to cross-pollinate audiences. Ice Poseidon literally had a "sexual initiation" ritual to become part of his "crew":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNZe0eIQnNo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnUimdRa640

So no one is harassing or harming him. People are just documenting the shit he does, so people are aware of what type of person he actually is and don't donate their money to him (and keep their kids away).

[–]ScamCast 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Real...

The subreddit is a reflection of the streamers. If the streamers are out doing toxic stuff, it's gonna show on the subreddit when people are talking about it.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

He has that big a sway? Shame I guess.

IMO a wiki page would help your cause, whether it's on SaidIt, InfoGalactic, or Wikipedia. Lay it all out. When critics call point to the record.

I take it then that you either have asstrolls and/or infiltrator asstrolls that are mucking up the reputation of an entire sub. To be clear I'm not in favour of wiping out a sub for a few bad apples. Also, I'd like all the bad apples gone from SaidIt. That's why I like this post.

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 11 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Jason, first of all I gotta say you are the most methodic writer I have witnessed in action. Second of all, you are wasting your time and energy entirely on the likes of Ice Piss. If you really knew what kind of a degenerate, and I really mean the lowest of the scumbags you're trying to stick up for here, you'd simply delete this OP and HorrorShow acct and go back to editing your Wikipedia entries.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

Methodic? I'm just responding to replies. Yes, I guess I have spent the last couple days doing this instead of my real writing/editing. I guess it's interesting.

I'm not HorrorShow. I like the post despite it's omissions. I'm also learning about IP2, the person, the sub, and their goals. I take no sides.

I'm also for keeping SaidIt civil, from being in favour of axing the trolls in IP2, or ignoring your "go back to" comment which doesn't help your case.

[–]Tobi69 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The ice yes man/discord trolls are doing this everyday on our sub. Brigading just before events and even if there are no events. We deal with it daily.

[–]kokolokoNightcrawler 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

You know what I mean, you're very meticulous and structured. This is why your work is easy to spot...But, you'd need more than a 'few days' to spend on this POS faggot, to really get why we want him shut down by all means.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm glad you think I'm meticulous and structured. I do try to make an effort. I wish I were more-so. Our admin seem to think I'm sloppy.

I expect you're correct. Heavy topics don't come easily. However, "by all means" is not acceptable. Some means need to be off the table.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'm also for keeping SaidIt civil,

Tough luck, sweaty. None of the rest of us give a flying FUCK what you want.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sweaty or sweety? I can't tell if it's a Freudian slip or if you're flirting with me.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

tranny confirmed

[–][deleted] 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

He has that big a sway?

https://gamerant.com/mixer-ice-poseidon-salsamendi/

https://www.sausageroll.com.au/entertainment/internet/paul-denino-aka-ice-poseidon-demands-usd2-mill-mixer-partnership/

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/people/ice-poseidon

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So it's virtue signalling troll army vs indistinguishable alt-right troll army?

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There is no "vs".

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lolcow

There are farmers, there are lolcows, the lolcows milk themselves (they don't need any outside help), the farmers sit back, document, watch and drink the milk. They don't touch the cows.

IP2 is not Ice Poseidon's fan-base, hence the 2 in IP2, we split-off from it due to his degeneracy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

ohh, I thought you guys were an indistinguishable alt-right troll army. Operating in the shadows relaying information to central headquarters.

Ok, nevermind then :) Continue on...

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, it is sane humans vs a drama queen retard faggot.,

[–]HorrorShow[S] 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

  1. Post evidence of your DDOS claim
  2. The only platform he's been banned on is Twitch and that was 3 years ago.
  3. You can say you're not harassing him but it's clear in my evidence you are