Saidit.net - 6/4/2018 - New terms of service updates, ban on vendors

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[–]Asshole2Assholes 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (24 children)

Isn't that why this website was created in the first place?

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (23 children)

No, it was created to discuss ideas and news in a way that's dense with quality. Not for people to hawk their often-illegal wares that could get us shut down.

[–]Asshole2Assholes 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

Oh, you must be thinking of a different Saidit page. Because GreyMarket doesn't sell illegal wares. Oops.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

There's a reason it's not called WhiteMarket

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

Its not called blackmarket though either lol

[–]wellwellwell 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

greymarket is pretty fucking close if you ask me

aka being in the "grey area of the law" and all

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

wrong, not close at all, lol.

disinformation

what the greymarket rly is :)

[–]wellwellwell 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

not trying to argue pedantry, although you're entirely right in that regard. Thanks, was interesting to read.

But look at the actual sub yourself - that shit really doesn't apply to what's going on. Everyone operates under the mask of "not for human consumption" - but we have nothing but vendors, reviews, and people asking for specific drugs/information. The legality of analogues in general is somewhat skewed (although it can be specific depending on the state), so it's kind of like playing with fire. All it takes if for the FDA or DEA to take notice and then saidit goes to shit

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

yea, i have looked at the sub here and there, cause everyone is uncertain, who's legit or not. cause the sub is new, and theres new people, things take awhile to work themselves out and sorted.

the greymarket sub mods couldve eventually worked out who was who, and maybe have a list of known scammers / blackmarket dealers.

[–]wellwellwell 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I think the problem is regarding the classification of "legitimate" dealers. Like it or not - they are still operating in a very sketchy area of the law. Scamming or not; these dealers operate under a "not for human consumption" defense.

I'm sure you're aware of some US case law (just an assumption but you seem educated enough lmao) - and that really doesn't hold up if the feds want you to go down. The admins are right - allowing this type of content to continue can inadvertently harm them in the future.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

If they 100% adhered to that, then there wouldn't be a problem. But it's literally impossible to keep to that because every region has different drug laws that are always changing, so you kind of have to take people's word on it, it seems. Which leads to a lot of abuse that is more blackmarket claiming to be greymarket. At least that's what I seem to be seeing when I look at that sub.

[–]wellwellwell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That's basically what it is. We operate under the whole "not for human consumption" idea, but anyone who looks at that sub for more than 5 minutes will recognize that's clearly not the case. Despite being analogues, the shit that goes on there is definitely illegal and prosecutable.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes exactly. I ignored it for a long time but when I started reading it recently it became apparent what is going on much of the time.

[–]Asshole2Assholes 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And a reason it's not called BlackMarket

[–]tizmaniandevil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

just because something you made isn't being used the way you intended isn't a bad thing. having this forum for discussion of legal chemicals makes people safer

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I agree and discussion of chemicals is still allowed. We're only banning vendors and vendor links.

[–]tizmaniandevil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

being able to discuss vendors is what creates the safety though. that way we know which ones are reliable. could you still allow reviews of vendors but ban any advertising?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

No sorry, vendor vetting should happen on another website. We really don't want any vendor discussion here, because we don't want saidit at all associated with buying/selling drugs