Saidit.net - IRC chat re-enabled!

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[–]go1dfish 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Is visiting the site logged in with default settings enough to join IRC and reveal a user's ISP and general location?

If so I suggest that it is a bad thing for privacy and should be changed.

Edit: also if I'm automatically joining channels for subs I view that's even worse for privacy and should require informed consent.

Ideally someone's presense in a channel (and ISP) should only be revealed once they want to send a message if at all.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

I agree. /u/d3rr is there anything more that can be done to hide the users ISPs?

[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

Fixed! Everyone now has anonymous stuff based off of their ip, and we can still ban individually. e.g.

guest73 (guest@A63F8FD.F85D24B1.E91E0EF2.IP): guest

And this will also apply to real IRC chat clients once we open that up.

Refs:

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I just finished an update of the voting button appearance. I think tomorrow I might try placing them side-by-side instead of above each other, as many users have recommended. I think I figured out the CSS for it

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

cool! that'll be a fun experiment.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah I think it'll help drive home the idea that we're not just using the old up/down system, and it's something fundamentally different

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Awesome! Great work! I'm sure everyone will appreciate their privacy being protected. This is sweet

[–]basedaf1 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

once upon a time on freenode IRC I was talking to a guy, and he mentioned you can decloak users on freenode. I asked how, and a freenode admin jumped in with "anyone that wants to discuss decloaking users can be removed from the network" and that was that on that conversation. A different IRC admin told me that was a problem with the specific version of IRC that is run on freenode (and many others) but not on the network he ran. So.... my question is do you know if that's a problem with the version of IRC you run?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good concerns. I don't know exactly how secure it is and can't guarantee anything. However we are using the latest stable version of unrealircd so I imagine that this issue no longer exists.

We are very open to IRC tips and don't have much experience with it ourselves.

[–]go1dfish 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Sweet, glad to hear it.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I'll do some more digging but I can't think of much, aside from the old setup where everyone has the same ip address and our ban ability stinks. Maybe there's some kind of dirty hack I can do.

[–]go1dfish 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

aside from the old setup where everyone has the same ip address and our ban ability stinks. Maybe there's some kind of dirty hack I can do.

Could you make this read-only, and the default until someone tries to actively chat? That would mitigate the problem pretty elegantly I think.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That'd be cool. I can't think of an easy way to do it right now but I'll keep that in mind.