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[–]RedditDrownsInShit 48 insightful - 14 fun48 insightful - 13 fun49 insightful - 14 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody cares what you want asshole.

[–]potipharbreen 46 insightful - 14 fun46 insightful - 13 fun47 insightful - 14 fun -  (20 children)

I don't want YOU on Saidit.

Go back to reddit.

[–]Snow 4 insightful - 16 fun4 insightful - 15 fun5 insightful - 16 fun -  (19 children)

Don't be a jerk.

[–]potipharbreen 29 insightful - 5 fun29 insightful - 4 fun30 insightful - 5 fun -  (16 children)

I want everybody banned that I don't like.

I want all opinions censored that I don't like.

/s

It's called trying to make a point.

[–]Snow 2 insightful - 7 fun2 insightful - 6 fun3 insightful - 7 fun -  (15 children)

Did I say I want someone banned?

[–]potipharbreen 15 insightful - 4 fun15 insightful - 3 fun16 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

Your level of reading comprehension is very low. Perhaps a night class in remedial English might help?

[–]FormosaOolong 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

FYI English is this user's second language. Go easy on their language skills and refute their points/counter their opinions rather than demeaning them.

[–]beermeem 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

No. Learn English or don’t bother.

This dude better learn up in here or suffer from dragging down the pyramid of consent.

[–]SpeakEasy 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Saidit is more international than you think, and a lot of people haven't grown up knowing english all their lives to recognize the subtleties of the language. Insulting their knowledge of a second language or even a first one is also lowering the argument on the pyramid of debate.

[–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh for god's sake.

Snow consistently fails to reach the heights of the pyramid. He deserves calling out.

[–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When they can’t be bothered to communicate their own point, there’s no pyramid to drag down. It’s just a bunch of jumbled stones.

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Snow is an opinionated jerk, hiding behind his EASL status.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

pots and kettles....

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I get that you think that is a valid response. Sure, I'm a jerk, I make no pretense to be otherwise.

Just like the ESL, that doesn't mean that Snow is not a jerk.

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Dude, I made that comment because of the irony of the jerkiness and opionatedness that is conveyed by the comment

Snow is an opinionated jerk

I didn't mean you or anyone else is a jerk. I meant that you, in that comment, are doing exactly the thing you are condemning :) I say this with a lightheartedness that is hard to convey in this format.

[–]potipharbreen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Relax, Francis. It was a constructive suggestion. I even included the tag /s = sarcasm.

I don't want anybody banned from the site. Not incels, not anybody.

Not even you!

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't see the /s fyi

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Or even a declasse!

[–]beermeem 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You did. Maybe learn the language.

[–]beermeem 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t want you on Saidit. You’re a fucking dipshit.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ah, Snow

[–]magnora7 30 insightful - 5 fun30 insightful - 4 fun31 insightful - 5 fun -  (13 children)

That individual user is breaking the site rules, so they're getting warnings and probably eventually banned. I'm not removing an entire sub because of the actions of a few individuals though. We will continue to warn/ban people advocating violence though

[–][deleted] 23 insightful - 2 fun23 insightful - 1 fun24 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

that guy is a provacateur trying to make incels look bad and get them all banned

[–]magnora7 20 insightful - 1 fun20 insightful - 0 fun21 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes I realize it is a likely possibility, that's why we're focusing on banning the users and not the sub

[–]i_cansmellthat 13 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 0 fun14 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I like the focus on the user, not the sub. Freedom of speech means some people will say things you don't like. Personally, the incel sub doesn't seem like my thing, so I don't go to it, but they can do their thing.

Weren't you guys talking about a possible mute button?

[–]magnora7 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Weren't you guys talking about a possible mute button?

Yup, still in development. It's not an easy project at all so it's going to take a bit.

[–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, its a good move. False flagging in subs is a reddit 'topminds' go to staple.

[–]Linuxuser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You can't ban users unless you want to ban entire ip ranges.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Which we can do, and have done.

[–]Jesus 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh yes, hasbara did this often. Espeically in holocaust revisionist forums. Revisionists do not deny Jews were executed and imprisoned, they simply are skeptical about gass chambers and thr 6 milion figure. But nooooo. Hasbara shills have to infiltrate the subs and spread absolute filth. Praising Hitler for killing Jews and advocating murder.

What a paradox.

[–]Linuxuser 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Whatis violence though, that's that reddit started with, ans then went with promoting violence, then they said anything that might promote promoting violence is wrong. Such is said, either everything is okay or nothing is.

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

i got banned from reddit for saying 'Deus Vult'. as it was hate speech / promoting violence....

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Such is said, either everything is okay or nothing is.

I see no reason for such absolutism. Saidit has much looser rules than reddit, and that won't change.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think this rule should be specified on the mod/site rules thread for future discussions like this.

[–]FACEandLMS 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

r/IncelTears (leftist, feminist subreddit. Most of the women are into polyamory, most of the men find it sexy that their wife has a laycount into the 40s. Many of the men are non-passing trans with a 5'oclock shadow) is a sub that hates incels so much for disagreeing with them that they false-flag us a lot.

Before we were kicked off Reddit, many IncelTears users would screenshot a "i wanna rape/murder" post, presumably from us, but the screenshot would reveal that they were the ones who made the post, i.e. "posted a few seconds ago" (they screenshotted it a second after posting it), or the post would have an upvote from them (when you make a post yourself, the upvote is implicit/default).

Now are there some nutjob incels? Sure. But if you have to DEMONIZE us to make a point then maybe you don't have as STRONG a point as you think!

Thanks for Saidit!

[–]Only71Genders 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Why not use Reddit then? They ban mean speech so you won't have to see it. This site will inevitably have things that offend you, because it allows free speech. Why put yourself in a situation to be constantly offended when you could just be at ease somewhere else?

[–]black_hole_son 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (3 children)

Free speech is not free and does not come without responsibility. Hate speech OR promoting violence is not contained within the notion of Free speech.

[–]Only71Genders 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Show me where "hate speech" isn't included in the notion of free speech. And acknowledge that it's such a vague term that criticism of the church could just go back to being a crime, based on your ideology.

Promotion of violence is a touchy one. Left wing political figures are in the media every day, promoting violence against the right. Should they be arrested for it? Direct calls for specific acts of violence is still illegal, of course. Instructing anyone to commit a crime is illegal, even if it's not a violent crime.

If we are discussion just this forum, and not the legalities of free speech, then I support whatever the site owners choose. It's their site. As long as they don't break any criminal laws. I can always just leave if I don't like their choices.

[–]bobbobbybob 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

oh dear god, grow up.

One man's hate speech is another man's interesting philosophical debate.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

wrong, all speech is free speech, lol.

[–]BoogerFukker 18 insightful - 4 fun18 insightful - 3 fun19 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

you just made this account for this one post, if you don't like them being on saidit why did you stalk them here

[–]beermeem 8 insightful - 4 fun8 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Only response needed. Please ban OP, /u/magnora7.

[–][deleted] 15 insightful - 2 fun15 insightful - 1 fun16 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

The first thing you do is complain about this account that obviously tries as hard as possible to be controversive.

You are /u/Jack_Mogale aren't you?

First you comment the same thing over and over and then you create this account with a very creative username, mister 'bannedfromreddit'. You didn't even post something else, you just created this account and we are ready to throw shit aren't we?

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    [–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    Well excuse me sir. Sincerely, someone who doesn't have a single idea about how a VPN works.

    [–]beermeem 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Who are you to assume gender?

    [–]Snow 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    Even if u/bannedfromreddit is u/Jack_Mogale, don't you think it's the problem of their admin allows this kind of content exist?

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    From my perspective I see that as we become more popular, Reddit or anyone else who finds us as a threat to their censored enviornment will try to throw shit at us, spam the site with controversy and then accuse us of posting this kind of content.

    As a result they expect the subs to be banned. /s/Incels is one of our growing communities and I'm sure they would like to get that shut down.

    [–]beermeem 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    This is not English. Even though it tries. Try again, Snow.

    You fucking CIA shill.

    [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    If you can avoid the insults, then the debate doesn't slide down the pyramid

    [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    posting inflamatory content in subs in order to report it and get the sub banned is a regular method employed on reddit to get subs banned.

    I prefer a laissez-faire approach to moderation, rather than enabling righteous and determined left wing psychopaths to silence everyone they disagree with on principle from the internet

    [–]FormosaOolong 12 insightful - 1 fun12 insightful - 0 fun13 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Use your "subscribed" filter, bro.

    [–]Jesus 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    If you call for acts of violence, murder rape, you're going to get banned. Problem is the majority on /s/incel are not advocating these threats. So, admins won't ban the sub, they'll warn the users and ban the ones who continue to advocate for murder. It's totally fine if you say I'm glad someone is dead. Although, that's on the low end of the pyramid of debate. If you explain why your glad, that's higher up on the debate pyramid. Simple.

    [–]Linuxuser 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    It's not murder when a drone does it. Ask any president. Ask them why they did it also lel.

    [–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    this is just an IT troll honestly, if you actually cared to know facts you'd know that we don't promote any of that mysongny at most. go back to reddit faggot.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    What's IT?

    [–][deleted]  (1 child)

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      [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Oh, thnks. I'm not familiar with all the jargo related to the subject.

      [–]basedaf1 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      No incels don't promote rape. Despite the name sex is pretty much the last thing we have on our agenda. We want to know what its like to be loved by a woman we find attractive (not a landwhale, literally any other female) The people who commit rape probably worship women if anything.

      [–]peanut2521 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      I agree

      [–]beermeem 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      I disagree.

      [–]Linuxuser 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      I agree to disagree

      [–]beermeem 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      I don’t. I’m not an incel. But I like having them around.

      [–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      If you don't like it, don't go there.

      We don't want you here, with that kind of attitude. Incels are tedious and unpleasant losers, for sure, but they have a right to be so, in their own space.

      [–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      I wonder why you the normies of saidit aren't reporting them.

      [–]bobbobbybob 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      because we don't read the incel sub, probably. I mean, who in their right mind would wallow in that shit?

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The OP could report it, you got linked there and you didn't report it.

      [–][deleted]  (2 children)

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        [–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        user soon to be /bannedfromsaidit hopefully. We don't like your sort here, bfr.

        [–]Antifa 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

        I

        Is the key here. Fuck what you want.

        [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Thanks again for the free advertising! That's https://saidit.net/s/Incels. Debate welcome!

        [–]FuckerMcCockslap 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

        Listen, I hate Incels too. They're awful. They need help. They are the way they are usually because of bad parenting, bullying, and generally not receiving the love that humans need to function in society. And mild autism.
        That being said, the whole point of Saidit is that it isn't Reddit; there's more freedom here. You shouldn't move to shut something down because you don't like it; just don't subscribe to that sub, plain and simple. It's thanks to that kind of fuck-you mentality that we even HAVE Incels in the first place.

        [–]Jesus-Christ 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        You created an account just to say this lol

        [–]RuckFeddit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        N I G G E R

        [–]Linuxuser 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        This conversation woulds;t even hapopenif we where all rich on boats and getting pussy.

        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Based

        [–]black_hole_son 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        I just want to be able to EASILY block people. Gotta be a simple way to take out the trash.

        [–]OpenSVideoEditor 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        finally a place that is on our side, fuck reddit, fuck you normies