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[–]789 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Ignorance-based fairy tale for dumb groupies.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

what makes you think that?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The British banks fomented the war.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

and the rothschilds control the british money supply as the famous quote tells us..

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But that quote was a fraud. I know that Belmont was a Rothschild employee. But Lincoln was mostly backed by the Frankfurt school of bankers, such as the Rothschilds who also had good relations with Imperialist Russia who came to the aid of Lincoln. Lincoln also had many Whigs around him as well. But I don't believe at that time, the Rothschild's controlled the Bank of England, I could be wrong though. I believe /u/789 would know.

I just learned too, that Andrew Jackson, the man who killed the archipelago British banks in the 1830's was funded by Rothschild.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But that quote was a fraud.

you think or you know?

Frankfurt school

that is an altogether different thing, although connected to the rothschilds, but it's just the source of cultural marxism. apples and oranges.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not that school, but the Frankfurt school of bankers, I wasn't specifiyng that actual school just a new school of learned bankers who wished to position themselves ahead of the British money-power.

They were German Jewsish bankers, as well as Swiss bankers such as the Seligman family.

That quote is a fraud until I can prove its real. I can't, and that's a problem. The heroizing of the Whig Lincoln into this mythological anti-bank figure is a lie spread by ignorance or liars like LaRouche, multilateralists and Neo-Hamiltonians.

[–]789 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

To start: the dumb groupie doesn't even know how to spell Bismarck's name. The "quote" appeared in the "Le Vieille France" in March 1921. Many years after the fact and the death of everyone involved.

Why don't we read some facts about Lincoln, the war, the Rothschilds https://name789.wordpress.com/lincoln-larouche/ scroll to bottom of article

None of ye would know this, but we have written statement from Belmont that the house of Rothschild wanted to keep the United States as ONE unit ---conspiracist morons inveted the story blamed on Bismarck, the willins associate of the money power

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

dumb groupie doesn't even know how to spell

note, how s and z are placed next to each other on the keyboard :-)

and what do you mean by 'dumb groupie' in this context?

now, you are promoting your blog and that is fine, but i remember others saying, how larouche might not be a reliable source.

Allegations of antisemitism arose in 2003 following the death of Jeremiah Duggan, a student who had been attending their conference in Germany. The Schiller Institute was accused of spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories. An internal London Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard) letter, obtained by the BBC's Newsnight during a British investigation into the death says: "The Schiller Institute and the LaRouche Youth Movement... blames the Jewish people for the Iraq war and all the other problems in the world. Jeremiah's lecture notes and bulletins showed the antisemitic nature of [the] ideology."[6] The German newspaper Berliner Zeitung categorizes the Schiller Institute as antisemitic.

further he is an obvious shill for the nwo: http://newparadigm.schillerinstitute.com/our-campaign/about-us/

schiller is for shill i guess.

so yeah, this is crap and disinfo.

[–]789 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

A dumb groupie is one who swallows the dog-shit that conspiracy peddlers feed him.

So why are you afraid to read facts about Lincoln, the war, Rothschilds ? You were not afraid to swallow the dogshit uncritically, you didn't consider for a second whether the scumbag who fed you the Bismarck tale was correct or just made it up ---typical of a conspiracist groupie.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

i think it is you 'facts' that are dog-shit. also, stop expressing yourself in a disgusting manner. the style is the man, so you are a disgusting person. people like you never have the truth.

[–]789 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

like I said, typical groupie

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Let's say I'm a conspiracy theoretician, why would someone want to fake a Bismarck quote which references the Rothschilds and the civil war?

[–]789 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good question. The fabricator of this particular one is dead, no one to interogate.

Why have conspiracists been fabricating quotes for 150 years ? Why did they fabricate the Elkin letter ? the Icklheimer letter ? Why did they blame that quote on Garfield ? Why did they invent a Lincoln who did not exist in real life ? Why the fabricator of the Bismarck quote did not know about the real Lincoln ? (obviously he only knew about the mythological Lincoln)

If you took the fabrications and fake quotes out of conspiracy books, you would end up with numbered blank pages.

Why Ed Griffin, the real creature from Jeckyl island, did never study the story of the Fed Res act ?

Why is it that conspiracist groupies develop a religious attachment to lies, liars, pick-pockets and shop-lifters ?

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, I have many books with real quotes about Jackson and all seems well until these authors introduce this mythological Lincoln character. Most of of these authors just rehash other authors; back and forth it goes, publishing noble lie after noble lie.

conspiracist groupies develop a religious attachment to lies, liars, pick-pockets and shop-lifters ?

Either they're ignorant and care not to research or step foot into a library or they have handlers and are being paid to lie or spread disinformation, the latter is all too common in this day and age.

/useless_aether, At one time did mention that we should "re-introduce" greenbacks, this, awhile back. I disagreed with him on that point, but I notice he also says Napoleon was an agent for the Rothschilds and Jesuits. And I don't see why he wouldn't have been.

The Rothschilds did thank Napoleon in an old letter that is now held at a Rothschild mansion transformed into a museum.

That being said, Napoleon did seem to be at odds with the British money power.

[–]789 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

https://saidit.net/s/finance/comments/3tbp/januray_1913/

Thanks to Bertie Charles Forbes (of Forbes Magazine fame) Eustace Mullins learned of the meeting of bankers on Jekyll Island. Originally published in Leslie's Illustrated Weekly Newspaper, October 19, 1916. Later published again in Forbes' book, "Men WHo are Making America." Even Mullins didn't tell his readers to pick up the book, available in most libraries; no, he presented himself as someone you need to bring you such secrets. (Unlike conspiracist book-peddlers, Mullins did actual research, he has seen the inside of the library) Conspiracist scum, like Gee Griffin, and all the others, heard about Jekyll only because of Mullins's book.

here is the problem:---

Those who did not bother to read the story of the federal reserve act (that includes every conspiracist who sold books on the federal reserve), did not know that the reason for the meeting of bankers was to come to an agreement among bankers as to what sort of federal reserve to establish. By 1913, once again, there were two group of bankers, and these two groups wanted different type of centralized banking system. That is what needed to be worked out on Jekyll island.

Please read the quote I posted at above link. Mr. Warburg's statement indicates that in January 1913 there was still some disagreement among major bankers.

Of course, the Record was available in every depository library, for anyone to read; but no one had the courage to walk into the library (especially not conspiracy book-peddlers).

Book-peddlers and their groupies do not know that in 1896 (17 years before 1913) "The Bankers' Magazine" published ---for anyone to read--- what the sound-money bankers wanted in a reorganized national currency bank system. They also don't know that in the 1880s none other than John Sherman openly declared in the Senate what the bankers' desires are. Elastic currency, bank-asset-based currency, government monies to be deposited in banks of the system.

There was no secret, no hiding their aims, goals, desires. In the 1880s everyone who cared to know, did know what the bankers wanted. By 1913, conspiracist literature so mesmerized the progressives voted for the federal reserve bill specifically because it promised an elastic currency.

Why conspiracists who sell books on the federal reserve, never tell ye that on September 18, 1913, Representative Lindbergh voted big fat YES to the federal reserve bill as it passed in the House. Why did he do that ? what was he thinking ? (that elastic currency [india-rubber money], government supervision, and increased reserve requirement will make it a good banking system ?) Dead man tells no tale, but the harmful effects of conspiracy literature is visible.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Bankers' Magazine;"

I cannot seem to find it but I remember banker Jacob Schiff mentioned something in this magazine before 1913 on what they desired to do in the US. It was a transcript of what he said and I can't find it now.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

keep your gross insults to yourself or be reported.

[–]789 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

not insults; observation

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

don't worry, you are also being observed :-)

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

His facts are sound. I've learned a lot from his blog, which are all backed up with primary sources and historical archives.

Bismark, thus, never stated anything like this, that I can find. 90% of internet quotes are fake. Like the mythological Lincoln quote to Dick.

We did it Dick!

I couldn't believe how many quotes are fake, but that comes with trying to find the primary source, which even some academics and espeically conspiracy theorists seem to gloss over.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anti-Semitism would imply that they also hate Arabs. They don't.

LaRouche is a multilateralist. He and his posse also attacked Jackson and heroized Hamilton.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The Schiller Institute and the LaRouche Youth Movement... blames the Jewish people for the Iraq war and all the other problems in the world.

The multilateralist LaRouche is not stupid, he understands what he is talking about most of the time, and is obviously an agent for someone, that is quite obvious but I don't think he ever blamed ALL JEWS for the Iraq war. However, the Iraq war was fomented by a group of mostly neoconservative Jews, Rabbi Dov Zakheim, Charles Krauthammer, the Kagan's, Kristols, and a slew of other Jews closely linked to the Likud.

Iraq was largely a war for certain Jewish Zionists to contain Iraq.

[–]useless_aether[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

the jew hatred is strong in this one

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lol, not at all. Though I don't believe modern Jews are really Jews because Jesus was the Jewish messiah. Just as I don't believe Christiandom is a follower of the true teachings of Jesus.

But clearly, this hatred you say I have is a figment of your imagination. You look for Anti-Semitism in order to discredit your opponent, not unlike what JDIF or the ADL does.

The problem is criticizng people who are Jews doesn't make you anti-Semitic. Plus, I don't believe modern Jews are Jews, becuase they DO NOT FOLLOW the true Jewish messiah.

Now, please explain what hatred I have uttered in these lines?

The multilateralist LaRouche is not stupid, he understands what he is talking about most of the time, and is obviously an agent for someone, that is quite obvious...

LaRouche is well learnt, so knowing that he lies makes it all the more devious.

I don't think he ever blamed ALL JEWS for the Iraq war.

I don't know if he has, I cannot seem to find that he has, only that certain Zionist Jews close to terroristic Likudniks were responsible for the Iraq debacle. This is all fact. That doesn't mean all Jews, and being anti-Semitic implies that you hate Arabs and Palestinians, so that would make the Likudniks anti-Semitic.

However, the Iraq war was fomented by a group of mostly neoconservative Jews, Rabbi Dov Zakheim, Charles Krauthammer, the Kagan's, Kristols, and a slew of other Jews closely linked to the Likud.

All true, and these people even gloated about their responsibility.

Iraq was largely a war for certain Jewish Zionists to contain Iraq.

It was, but not all Jews. Denying this makes you look like an ignoramus.