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[–]RothschiId 2 insightful - 5 fun2 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 5 fun -  (9 children)

So?

[–]useless_aether[S] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

why is your username 'rothschild'?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

They make good wine, i'll give them that.

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    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    He did... living wine, and the only wine worth living for.

    Jesus, a democrat? Jesus had no political or economic affiliations, though he was a revolutionary conservative on debt forgivness and usury but through following "The Way," via a personal relationship with God. Socialists and communists like to claim that Jesus was a follower of their ism, but this isn't so, and certainly many figures such as Jacques Ellul's Money & Power illustrate this. Why would Yeshua find a diverse set of apostles: tax collectors, right-wing radical Jews, etc. They gave up their ways and worldly desires to follow Yeshua and his teachings.

    Babylon and Nineveh, Rome and Greece, had erected their altars of Pagan worship under the very eyes of the people without a protest; but they crucified that man because He said, "Woe unto you, Scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites."

    One has to keep in mind that the Hillel sect of Judaism enacted a clause at that time waiving a clients rights, thus permitting interest, oftentimes it being usurious. So, Rome, Babylon and now the Judaism had been taken over by the creditor class.

    He had condemned the extortioner and the oppressor, and had dared to scourge the money-changers from the temple of the living God. [Applause.] And whoever boldly stands to-day in the cause of humanity against the greed and rapacity of the few is a marked victim for crucifixion.

    One must understand that it was through love of the father that Yeshua did all of these things. To follow his way, one simple principle is to give to others and not charge interest.

    The denominational Protestant sects of Christianity, bastardized Yeshua's teachings, as has Catholicism. Now tax exempt, they have little power to do much other than give people the illusion that churchgoing is all that is needed, to go to heaven, and furthremore, to change the usurious world we live in. If predatory lenders and bankers practiced "The Way," we would have a far better world than what we have now, unfortunately. they ignore his teachings or hate them.

    I also think when Jesus told the Pharisees to give unto Caesar what is Caear's was suppose to mean that indeed, this money IS Caesar's. THe Pharisee's were trying to trip up Jesus so they could have a reason to persecute him for tax evasion. But Jesus contended that it is Caesars face that is on it, so, instead, follow my way and others will do the same for you. Rather than live within the system, Yeshua's CHristianity was based on a communal approach of hard work and personal charity through sacrafice, love and bonding through an open, welcoem heart. This alone created a healthy community that superceded Caesar's system of divine rule. The early "Christians" were dangerous enemies to Rome becuase of their lifestyle. They were frequently persecuted by Rome, Pharisees and others who loathed their lifestyle and teachings. Rome, thius hijacked Christianity and created in its place a bastardized, paganesque version, thus toning down the revolutionary tendencies of early "Christians" through self-sacrafice and the communal life-style approach.

    [–]Captzapheart 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    Joshua Ben Joseph was clearly a trot...maybe even a Bolshevik, dunno about this Jesus bloke... Sounds a bit neo-lib/alt right, imo.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Hey, Hasbara, how do you feel today? Jesus was none of those things, but surely fallible men and women can be all of those things or just some of those things. Yeshua was the Son of Man and his teachings, if followed could save the world. Trotskyites started teh Cheka who basically executed anyone who was against class extermination or was anti-Semitic. Yeshua was nailed on the cross for preaching love, kindness, open heart, and the need to help the less fortunate.

    [–]DffrntDrmmr 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    Yeshua was nailed on the cross for preaching love, kindness, open heart, and the need to help the less fortunate.

    ... being a rabble-rouser.

    [–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    rabble-rouser

    God bless.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We need more level-headed rabble-rousers these days.