DOUGLAS VALENTINE Interview [with WHITNEY WEBB] - How The COVID-19 Police State Was Born In Vietnam (1:20:25) ~ The Last American Vagabond - [ 2 heroes in one EPIC show! ]

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[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Yeah but Jason what else did you want the govt. to do in response to the virus? What would you have done if you were in charge?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

The virus is a pathetic propaganda excuse for the bankster scams, totalitarian police state, and intentional manufactured demolition of the middle class with a death sentence for the poor - across the globe.

The virus may or may not be real, but virtually all the numbers are pointing to a vastly diminished risk yet they continue the charade with an utterly profoundly exaggerated reaction to it rather than deal with it with a rational open science approach.

In short, the virus is equal to or less than the flu.

Isolate the sick and the susceptible (Boomers) = quarantine.

Isolate the healthy = tyranny.

So, if I were in charge, the former obviously.

 

Then, if I were still in charge as temporary global tyrant, I would:

  1. separate banks from state
  2. form city bank trusts, independent of all other banks
  3. form city police forces, independent of all other police forces, subservient and accountable to their communities
  4. dissolve all borders, nations, and states down to regional cities and counties only
  5. dismantle all secret agencies and military
  6. abolish all copyrights and patents and censorship
  7. make free all public transportation, communications, education, and healthcare
  8. make home-servers as common as refrigerators to decentralize a new Internet
  9. push for other decentralized alternatives
  10. promote the fuck out of voluntarism and community networks
  11. promote the fuck out of worker co-ops and freedom cells
  12. promote the fuck out of DIY self-reliance and maker culture
  13. mandate most new homes must be earthships
  14. force everyone to study The Corbett Report, etc
  15. decriminalize drugs and other absurdities
  16. seek donations for my retirement ( power corrupts absolutely :P )
  17. force myself out of office, like Thanos destroyed the stones
  18. in my retirement I'd muster a studio and work on my anti-authoritarian counter-propaganda edutainment projects

[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

That's an interesting list. How would you achieve 5 without a 5 to enforce it? So if the biggest authority permissable is regional cities, how do you prevent one regional city from taking over another regional city? How do you, in general, stop power cliques from forming which take over? What are you going to do to stop it?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Excellent question, one I wrestle with myself.

Short answer: maybe folks need to absorb the counter-propaganda and counter-dogma ideas of Corbett etc first to become aware of the fallacies and hypocrisies of our rigged systems - and how the secret agencies operate to help recognize their chicanery. Most people are utterly clueless about how true spycraft works (nothing like James Bond).

Your question kind of touches upon 2 paradoxes I have no solutions or answers for.

  1. Anarchy means no government, so if everyone is free, then some are free to create a tribe/mob/mafia/government - and then you have a problem again. Because of this, I've decided I'm for minarchy - the absolute minimum government, as decentralized as possible, no bigger than a city (too big in many cases).

  2. The monopoly on violence is claimed by authority, legitimately or not, and everyone else is seen as a criminal - yet what is one to do when it's corrupt and abusive? Violence is a very slippery slope, and use of it easily discredits its user. Also problematic is punishment, an eye for an eye seems fair, but if the first person did nothing wrong then they carry and unfair scar. Natural Law says do not harm or deceive others, but defense is not considered violence. And most problematic is when and what defensive measures are acceptable? If someone gives you a little paper cut it's no big deal and not worthy of violent defense. If a million people give you a little paper cut you may bleed to death. How could you defend yourself and how much violence is acceptable? Our rigged systems are unfairness and harm by thousands upon thousands of rules and laws and fines and taxes and tariffs and usury and bullshit.

Ultimately IMO, the biggest solutions are awareness, and decentralization of all things - including all power (banks, authority, etc). People need to take responsibility for themselves. Maybe there could be volunteer police forces, accountable only to their own communities. Further, the jobs of police should be decentralized and broken into different jobs. Separate the SWAT crowd control thugs from the criminal investigations from the common conflict resolution from the traffic/parking folks from the wellbeing surveillance, etc. like ambulance is separate from the fire department.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

4 and 5 - how do you stop us from returning to warring city-states, before the modern nation-state and agreed upon borders. The Borgias is a good glimpse into what the poltiics of that world were like.

14- you're not serious here, right?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Indeed, how can you stop tribalism?

I don't know how, but I'm certain that transparency and open information will most certainly help and in a free dialogue people can criticize bad ideas and explain why they're bad. The unbalanced power of the corporate media is like a megaphone to our whisper of SaidIt and few will ever get to hear how wrong they are.

The Borgias was a fun TV series, naturally with its agendas, anachronisms, and fictions. What I find far more interesting is Webster Tarpley's lectures on the Venetians (don't bother with his contemporary political-historical stuff).

14 - I'm very serious, if I were in charge as temporary global tyrant. Everyone has been brought up in our Prussion Education systems and trained all their lives to believe all the lies of authority. A successful rebellion only requires 3% of the population to push back. If critical thinking, open science, open journalism, and skepticism of authority were presented to the masses, I'm quite certain that at least a quarter at minimum would wake the fuck up. Corbett is great, but as the tyrant in charge I would make better content with great writing, sexy presenters, glossy graphics, slick music, and of course a curriculum for all levels. Also, Corbett is not really for noobies. However, Richard Grove of Tragedy And Hope (T&H YouTube channel) has developed a critical thinking course, for free, and Mark Passio gives an excellent 4 hour class on Natural Law (in a nutshell: don't harm or deceive), which I'm quite certain could be compressed waaaay down and presented with glamour. I'd also make my Truther Newbie Crash Course a mandatory history class (though with a high production overhaul).

If I were in charge.

I also, neglected to mention, that I'd take on a lot of advisors and help and make it all 100% transparent, open, and publicly broadcast, rather than in closed secret boardroom meetings. All documents are released and all financials and economics transparent. ALSO, very critical, instead of doing things ONLY ONE way, I would encourage diversity and folks to develop MANY ways of doing things, so if any fail we have many alternatives.

After exposure to all that, I'm quite certain civilization would be totally different. But it's just a pipe dream.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I enjoyed T and H even if I didn't agree with a lot of it I think what he did for the man who's writings he had learned so much from when he was in the hospital was outstanding and incredible. I forget that man's name right now.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

But why do you want to be a tyrant?

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I don't. You recruited me when you asked me "What would you have done if you were in charge?" All authority is tyrannical to some degree. To make profound changes to the already indescribably tyrannical systems we have like I suggested, would require the status quo to be forced to change, via bigger tyranny, and the brainwashed masses won't evolve easily either.

I thought it was a fascinating and curious little challenge to outline the grand sweeping changes necessary to bring fairness to the people and Earth.

[–]MostlySunnySkies 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ahhhh got it. I wasn't I asking about Covid-19 though? What woudl you do if you were in charge? Anyway an interesting list indeed!.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I would go with the Swedes and do absolutely nothing.

Though, if it were actually a threat, as I stated:

In short, the virus is equal to or less than the flu.

Isolate the sick and the susceptible (Boomers) = quarantine.

Isolate the healthy = tyranny.

So, if I were in charge, the former obviously.

It's easier to say now with hindsight. Initially there was a lot of fear and confusion. Leaders not in the scam loop might be excused for going along with it - maybe. Considering it's all just a giant power grab and excuse to crash the market, reset inflation, grab wealth and power, pass lots of draconian laws, starve the people, thin the herd, and rebuild their new world order, then it's hard to believe any leaders were out of the loop.

The WHO and FEMA and all the health organizations are WELL FUCKING FUNDED and have been preparing all their existences for these emergency situations - yet NONE of them acted efficiently or effectively and now demand MORE money and authority. BULLSHIT.

Nothing ads up and the whole think is not just blown out of proportion, they fucking nuked the entire fucking planet.

Of course they'll never consider https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jubilee_(biblical) so "debts would be forgiven" and we can return to normalcy. Their whole plan is to create a new normal giving them more power.