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[–]mother 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

i only hope that she was wearing a mask.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Hilarious - especially in the context of her rape and murder (and because cops are known to handcuff people for virtually any reason. Whatever his approach - re. COVID or whatever - it dishonors the victim to joke about masks.)

[–]mother 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is a real news story?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes - rather depressing news in the UK - the title for which could be, "Cop Gets Life in Prison for... Raping, Killing Sarah Everard." Wayne Couzens was already known for another offence and will now be investigated for other potential crimes. The ease with which police members have and can still kidnap, rape, and murder people has been the real topic here, rather than COVID. Thefreethoughtproject.com is twisting the story into its own right-wing propaganda narrative.

[–]thomastheglassexpert 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

Misleading title here. Wanker of England is called a "bobbie" not "a cop". Cop is peculiar to USA not most other places on the planet.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

we call them cops in england too

[–]thomastheglassexpert 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Here to my home in NZ we call them something different but they are our mates they are not attacking us.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

how are things going there with covid, lockdowns etc?

[–]Node 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

but they are our mates they are not attacking us.

Are you a far leftist? According to all the news and video I've seen, they're attacking everyone else.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They are cops in Canada too.

Wednesday I called a cop a "sarcastic motherfucker" to his face in front of a couple dozen folks in front of a hospital.

He was NOT a peace officer and was an authoritarian asshole escalating a situation and is an embarrassment to his position.

[–]thomastheglassexpert 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"To know a man give him not duty but power then you will know the man". Abraham Lincoln. I like this quote.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

One of those times I wish the deah penalty were legal in the UK (as there is appropriate evidence &c). Taxpayers shouldn't pay this person.

[–]Trajan 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I'll consider death penalty once there's a government with the competence and virtue to be trusted to execute only the bad 'uns. That'll anyway be tendered academic as at that point we will be well on our way to evolving into beings of pure energy.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Depends on the evidence, as I've noted. It's not rocket science.

[–]Trajan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

You might want to look into this a bit more if it seems that simple.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You might want to re-read my comment if you think I referred to legal process as simple.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I didn't see you referring to the legal process beyond simplifying it down to 'depends on the evidence' and 'suitable evidence'. Evidence is not simple. For example, eye witness evidence is one of the more common forms of evidence seen in convictions, yet by far the most common in overturned convictions. While DNA or other forms of physical evidence may place a person at a scene, or in prior contact with a victim, it doesn't necessarily mean they are guilty of the crime, yet people are convicted on this kind of evidence.

I don't think we're anywhere near being confident in establishing conclusive guilt that'd justify the state killing someone. The idea that somebody's life would hang on an adversarial system of justice, where the state's role is to secure a conviction, doesn't make much sense. Perhaps it'd begin to make more sense where the prosecution is replaced by a role whose purpose is to find the truth one way or the other?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Evidence is addressed in the legal process (ie. not in a discussion online). Yes, there are problems with some kinds of evidence. Yes, there are problems with arrangements for the death penalty. I'm not promoting a Saudi Arabia or a Texas legal process.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What are you proposing that'd result in 100% accuracy?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Only a few cases would be accurate, with a strict approach to the types of evidence required. The potential for it to be rigged is still dangerous, so there would have to be also a reliable check and balance scheme, previously managed with lawyers in court.

[–]Trajan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's pretty a pretty vague proposal for killing people.