An 18-Year-Old Said She Was Raped While In Police Custody. The Officers Say She Consented. She thought it would be a simple case. She had no idea she lived in one of 35 states where officers can claim a detainee consented.

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[–]VantaFount 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Why the fuck should consent factor into this at all? This is akin to a boss sleeping with their subordinate and saying "Oh well it's all consensual!" So long as you hold sway over the person you're screwing, you have leverage against them. And police have the most leverage of all!

[–]magnora7[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah they literally have her locked in a cage and control her food and water.

[–]hennaojichan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, that angers me. The question of consent gets muddled when you are being held by two big guys with guns. And how can they do their jobs while cruising around waiting for their next turn at "consensual sex?"

[–]FormosaOolong 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So, let me get this straight....you claim a tiny 18 year old girl you arrested came on to you, and you were not adult enough, not professional enough, and not ethical enough to ignore it? Oh come ON!

And you actually have the fucking nerve to publicly assert that because she, as you claim, "asked for it," it's perfectly okay to take turns fucking her in your van while the taxpayers subsidize your happy fun time? Really?

It's a sorry state of affairs when we even need legislation regarding officers not engaging in sexual activity of any kind with people in their "custody", much less use the lack of it as an excuse to fucking "legally" rape people.

I just cannot even any more.

[–]magnora7[S] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

That's pretty demented, that police can claim a detainee consented in 35/50 states? Why is that law allowed at all? This is yet another instance of police having too much power and not enough accountability.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

There is no law that allows it. Consensual sex is by default allowed. You need to pass a law specifically to disallow consensual sex in specific instances. This has nothing to do with police power, everyone is allowed to have consensual sex.

[–]whereswhat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Wow. Do you seriously think this was acceptable behavior?

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Not at all what I said or even implied. I am just pointing out what is being deceitfully hidden to create a false sense of what happened. If you denounce this act on ignorant grounds you are worse than someone who stays silent because you devalue the legitimate criticisms. You are easily proven wrong and sully everyone else who speaks out by association. Make your arguments on solid grounds. Don't ever take people revealing the truth as your enemies even when the truth is not something that supports your stance.

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Thanks for the clarification, I am glad to hear that. Still not sure what you are trying to get at with your comment though. Are you saying we need a new law to charge a police officer who has "consentual" sex with someone they are detaining?

Also, wtf am I "proven wrong" on? I didn't even claim anything...

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I think it should be prohibited to have sex on the job, as it is with every job. And if someone is in custody, that should be considered statutory rape as they are by default being coerced. Even consensual sex to get out of a ticket should be considered rape.

[–]whereswhat 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I could not agree more.

Please forgive my ignorance on this: surely we already have laws on the books to prevent any type of sex with someone whilst they are detained, right?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think you're misunderstanding the article... give it a read

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But Anna didn’t know that in New York, there is no law specifically stating that it is illegal for police officers or sheriff’s deputies in the field to have sex with someone in their custody.

I did. You need to read it yourself. The article itself is biased and fallaciously claims that this is a "loophole". Not having a law preventing something is not a loophole. You were bamboozled by a deceitful author.

[–]magnora7[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I never said it was a loophole. I said the law is morally wrong. You're misrepresenting my argument

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The article calls it a loophole. The one you told ME to read. And there is no law.

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Seriously, it's unfathomable. Common sense would have us believe this could never be possible.

It's one aspect of the insanity of a "judicial" system that has so many statutes, codes, laws, etc that it takes teams of lawyers and law libraries the size of entire rooms just to decode it. How is that fair? How is anyone who is not a millionaire supposed to have a chance?

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    [–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    what if all that rapists had to do was to say that she consented?

    Yeah, that's what happened to her

    [–]hennaojichan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    No one mentioned the obvious: sadists are attracted to police work. They are really turned on by the power. The argument used to be that all sex was about power. I don't believe that but in this case the power angle must have been a big factor. Let's hope these guys have a few years to consider what they have done. Ex-cops are not much liked in prison and they will probably get raped often where they are going.

    [–]comments 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    sometimes sex is about power. I saw an article by a lady who'd gotten involved in sex scenes talk about how there was reduced interest in having sex with her if she was actually interested wanted to do it and there was very clearly agency on her part and no coercion.

    [–]lmaonope333 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Historically, sex has absolutely all about power, now that women have financial freedom it's more equal and consensual

    [–]TheH1dd3nFear 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Nope this is BS. She's doing a publicity stunt.