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[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

That's horrible!!!?

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

the way they ignored him was horrible. Shoving him was kinda what police do when they are clearing an area that people have already been told to leave.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

He was trying to return one of their fallen helmets. And no, shoving like that is not supposed to be standard procedure in that circumstance.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Did you know that three policemen were murdered the night before?

Shoving is pretty normal, or do you have a list of police procedure used when clearing areas that are under riot?

proof of the helmet story, too. I dind't see it in the longer clip.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

three policemen were murdered the night before?

Source?
In the same town?
Context of the alleged murder?
Was that old guy a threat?

Maybe protesters should invest helmets with visors.

Unrelated tangent: Maybe I should order a police helmet and visor and start wearing it around at Costco.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

OP posted the evidence of the helmet thing above, but you don't even need it to see plainly that there was complete calm in that street, the peaceful protesters returning home for curfew were few and vastly outnumbered by police, and the ancient old man could in no way be construed as threatening. There is no scenario where I want my police force to routinely use violence, force and brutality as their means of control, and your apologist stance is surprising, unless it's just argubait?

Even their police chief apologized and suspended the officer without pay.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The helmet is clearly visible in prior shots and is a motorbike helmet, not a police helmet. I want my police to use violence to deal with agitators, looters and other criminals. Lots of it.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

We are clearly not discussing an agitator, looter or criminal here. It is beyond political ideology, imo, to witness someone, badge-wearing or no, senselessly injure an elderly man. Is that really the society you want to live in?

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Is that really the society you want to live in?

One where fools can re-write narratives constantly to frame whatever piece of shit as some kind of victim whenever they want into order to force the majority to bow down before a hateful minority ideology?

shit no.

the guy was a professional, police hating agitator, so what if he was old. His body, his choice, and he got the rough end of it, if it wasn't just a big staged job, as seems likely.

play stupid games, get stupid prizes.

If you play stupid games with police in civil disturbances, you discover the true meaning of the social contract that we have with them, to divest the power of violence to them in order to maintain law and order.

The cop had every right to shove him.

[–]FormosaOolong 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

the guy was a professional, police hating agitator,

So now you are re-writing the narrative?

The cop had every right to shove him

Technically, police do NOT have the right to assault non-violent citizens. That's nazi-level shit.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

the guy was a professional, police hating agitator,

So now you are re-writing the narrative?

No, i'm just stating facts. Did you check out his social media? "fuck the police" is front and centre, followed by lots of skiting about what he's done.

Technically, police do NOT have the right to assault non-violent citizens|

what is a riot?

what are orders to clear an area, under civil disobedience?

Police are explicitly granted the right to use violence (force) against non compliant citizens inthe exercise of their duties.

that's why you can sleep safe at home at night, because cops are legally allowed to use violence.