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[–]magnora7 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

The part that I still find weird is that it was the ATF who did it. Why does the Alcohol, Tobacco, And Firearms regulatory body, have a military that is killing people? It wasn't FBI, it wasn't the cops. It was the militarized ATF. That detail always struck me as bizarre.

[–]jamesK_3rd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well i mean they've also done the same with the irs and another agency during the Obama years. Why would IRS agents need to collect debts with military grade weapons?

It's almost as if they know something everyone else doesn't. The real tragedy is that nobody else cares.

[–]jamesK_3rd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

have a military that is killing people

Actually, after mulling it over, what you said struck me as profound. i didn't realize you said it at first, maybe you didn't realize you said it. i think we've all known what's been happening, but what you said is perhaps the reason for this.

Why would a government need a federal agency to act as a militarized unit of enforcement? Perhaps if it was limited by law in what it's military was allowed to do on domestic soil, The Posse Comitatus Act.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

Federal agencies are the solution.. It's like having a military without actually having one. Just a goon squad.

Haha. You know i really shoulda registered this account with a vpn.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup exactly. You get it. Who can tell goon squads to stand down if there are like 20 goon squads and they all operate under completely different rules. What's an exception for one is not allowed for the other, so they can compliment each other as they reach for more and more control. I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI coordinated with the ATF, to make sure all the blame would fall on the ATF and not the FBI, or something like that. Definitely possible.

[–]AnarchySpeach 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

There's also this documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLSRobvR-1Q

Never forget.

[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Janet Reno's tenure as Attorney General was among of the worst.

I think it's important in these situations to draw parallels that aren't necessary immediately apparent. While Waco may have led to a rise in the conservative freedom movements, the event in my lifetime it most reminds me of was MOVE in Philadelphia. That's when a (black) Democratic mayors office bombed a property belonging to a radical black leftist back to earth movement, killing six adults, five kids, and burning to the ground two city blocks or 61 homes of neighbors, rendering 250 people immediately homeless and depriving them of their life's possessions.

Special note to NIMBY's: Be careful how much you complain about your neighbors. The city might just nuke your whole 'hood.

While politically very different, the BD's and MOVE were both considered "extremist" groups often questioned for their treatment of children in their care, among other things. In each case, they fell victim to unnecessary government overreach, much like the later victims of multiple police SWATTING attacks during the gamer gate era.

[–]fuckCNN123 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This should be taught in American schools. Even among the "woke" youth skeptical of government, most people under 30 are completely unaware of the incendiary domestic terrorist attack on American women and children by our own government a mere couple decades ago.

[–]jamesK_3rd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you're depending on state run govt schools to teach your kids, you've already lost. That's not saying you have to private school or home school them, but if all your kids ever get ends at 3pm, congratulations, you're just raising automatons.