most women will always be male-identified so they'll just continue to agree with men basically until the end of time.

I used to think that, and yet some things have changed which gives me hope. At some point (when i get my thoughts together and have more time to babysit the thread) I will introduce a thread to talk about those changes in more detail.

But just as an example, twenty years ago if a radfem were to dare broach a few specific subjects (mostly regarding the degree to which men hate us) the response by everyone except for maybe one or two was abject horror that any woman could have such a "hateful" opinion of men. Yet I see those exact same topics discussed now, and I'm AMAZED at how many women are like "yep, i see it too".

Dozens upon dozens of women now, sometimes even hundreds. This is very much a sea change. And the women who don't feel the same, are no longer horrified.

Now I believe that the day WILL come when enough women feel the same, that we finally do what must done to liberate ourselves from the tyranny of male oppression. Other women in other countries have already started. So there is hope for us!