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[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Who said wrong?

Telling potentially gay boys how much damage it does would keep some of them from experimenting with it.

Despite the overwhelming propaganda to the contrary I believe there is quite a lot of evidence that homosexuality is like a fetish in that it grows the more it is indulged in. Every time you stimulate orgasm you learn to crave the thing you use to stimulate it. The natural release of neurochemicals during orgasm provide a reward for the behavior prior to it.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Despite the overwhelming propaganda to the contrary I believe there is quite a lot of evidence that homosexuality is like a fetish in that it grows the more it is indulged in.

This is the kind of double-speak gaslighting that I expect from ultraconservatives. Homosexuality is a "choice", except when adolescents who seem to be "faggots" are tortured by their peers, in which case it is assumed to be inevitable. Have you ever thought that the trauma inflicted on young "faggots" actually creates the degeneracy you condemn? I hate the degeneracy that is displayed by gay men, but I also understand that it is often a response to deep emotional wounds.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is a foot fetish a choice?

[–]RedEyedWarrior 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

I disagree with your last paragraph. I don’t know where homosexuality comes from but it’s not a fetish. It’s an orientation like heterosexuality and bisexuality.

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Homosexually comes from child abuse.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

I'm gay and I wasn't abused as a child.

Besides, there are a lot of straight people were abused as kids and are still straight. Most straight people weren't abused, and most gay people weren't abused.

[–]Pixietree 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I think it's more of a epigenetic cause. I work in social work/mental health. The majority of gay people I have worked with and know have had some sort of trauma as a child. But you are correct that it is not all. It's just my antidotes.

But back to the epigenetic, a individual might have been abused as a child. Sometimes as a copping mechanism they become attracted to the same sex if ( especially if the abuser was the opposite). Back when being gay was more taboo the abused individual would stay in the closet and get married have kids etc. But the gene was passed down to the children (or the generation after if skipped) even though there was no abuse after.

So even if a gay individual didn't experience abuse, somewhere in their lineage before them there was.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There seems to be a correlation between having parents with cluster b personality disorders and being gay.

It's thought that being gay is due to the mother having an autoimmune reaction so the baby gets the wrong amounts of testosterone.

Suffering childhood trauma makes you more likely to have autoimmune problems and most cluster bs have that.

[–]Pixietree 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting, so the combination of a autoimmune reaction and childhood trauma can cause a higher likelihood of being gay. I wonder what environmental factors correlate to the autoimmune health, particularly the hormones. If certain places have a higher likelihood of somebody being gay. As well with the trauma being a catalyst.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I always thought of being gay as something similar to being left handed. Most people are right-handed, but some people are left-handed. And some are ambidextrous, like how some people are bisexual. Some people say that having older brothers increases the likelihood that you’d be gay, probably because your parents would have enough sons to give them enough grandchildren or so that you won’t have children and thus enough resources to take of your parents. I only have one older brother, but my mother was the youngest of a large family and I have a lot of maternal cousins who are older than me. Maybe that is why I’m a homosexual.

Look, I don’t know where homosexuality comes from. All I know is that I am a homosexual, and my childhood was similar to that as most people. You could argue this was influenced by the large number of older cousins I have, but that’s all I know.

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah but straight people can still be faggots to go on the Kinsey scale and the fact that Onlyfans exists.

Where are you drawing your last point from in any case?

[–]lunarstrain 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Kinsey's scale is a bunch of shit, he didn't even believe heterosexuality existed.

Regarding human sexuality, Kinsey opined that humans are naturally bisexual but religious precepts and prejudices have forced people into chastity, heterosexuality and monogamy. The American biologist also endorsed sodomy, saying that all forms of anal intercourse are natural and healthy.

This article outlines the depths of his depravity with sources.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I trust people like Kinsey either. You’re either straight, gay or bisexual. There is no number that measures your orientation.

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Waiting for that, I was trying to bait for a specific response from the other bloke but it didn't come.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's often symptomatic of childhood trauma, not necessarily of a sexual kind.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, but some heterosexual people have had traumatic experiences from their childhoods too. Aside from having a visual impairment, there was nothing out of the ordinary in my childhood.

[–]Cass 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How do you explain societies where a great number of men are gay? Like Ancient Greece and modern day Pakistan. They're gay for little boys, but still. I feel like this is at least a heavy support towards the theory that homosexuality has a social component that's learned.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don’t think homosexuality was more common in Ancient Greece than it is now in the modern western world. It’s just that it was heavily documented, it is right now. And as for the little boys thing, yes, that is disgusting. Sex between two adult men in private is fine, but sex between an adult and a child should lead to the death penalty for the adult. Not entirely sure if sex between men and teenage boys was accepted in Ancient Greece but my assumption was that it was rightfully condemned, but unfortunately happened anyway because teenage boys were drafted very young into the military.

Gay men will always be a minority. Simply because we do not want to have sex with women. I’d say we’re about 3-5% of the male population, which is a liberal estimate. The reason homosexuality supposedly happens more frequently in some societies than it does in others is simply because some societies cram it down our throats, some societies try (in vain) to suppress it, and some societies simply don’t talk about it.

[–]jingles 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yup, it's the disease that keeps on giving.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How is it different than a fetish?

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Orientation is what sex you want to have sex with (male, female or both). A fetish is a sexual fixation on a nonliving object or nongenital body part.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's all a matter of a stimulus turning you on. A pavlovian response.