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[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (45 children)

Notice how they started this shit after they confiscated the guns.

Notice too how the murder rate in Australia in 2020 was about 1.6 per 100,000 people.

And that the murder rate in the USA in 2020 was about 6.5 per 100,000 people.

So it's not all downside if you like not getting murdered.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Thats because they have less niggers. Low nigger population zones in the USA with guns have the same low murder rates. It's the niggers, not the guns.

[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Thats because they have less niggers. Low nigger population zones in the USA with guns have the same low murder rates.

There's a few things you should do in order to make this into a reasonable argument.

1) Get the grammar right. Blacks are countable, so it's fewer not less. People will wonder if you are simply afraid of a black who can spell "job" taking your job, rather than you having a sound argument.
2) Avoid the racial slur. People will assume that you're suffering from racism, rather than having a sound argument.
3) Provide your evidence. Provide your reasoning. Your point isn't obvious. For instance, This table shows that slightly less than half (Single victim, single offender, federal) homicides are perpetrated by blacks. If that extrapolates to all homicides, the rate for other races is still somewhere around 3.9 per 100,000, which is still 2.4 times the "low" murder rates in Australia.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Thanks, you've sparked my racist curiosities. You seem good with numbers. What is the murder rate among american whites per 100,000?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

White murdering white?

Or white murdering anyone?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

White murdering anyone please.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If you're not happy with the extrapolations I made in the GGGP post, you'll have to point me to a more complete data set yourself.

But I get about 3.9 per 100,000. The assumptions being that the proportions of all murders by race are about the same as those in the linked table.

But I said that already.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Are you claiming the white homicide rate is 3.9 per 100,000? That was my question.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm claiming that that's what I get extrapolating the racial breakdown from FBI one on one murders to the national homicide rate for 2020.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Earlier you made this claim:

If that extrapolates to all homicides, the rate for other races is still somewhere around 3.9 per 100,000

Here you said "other races". Is that the rate for whites or other races? Please clarify why these numbers are identical.

[–]jet199[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The fewer vs less thing is a myth.

Both have been used interchangeable in English for a thousand years or more.

It was only the middle class Victorians who tries to make English fit with Latin who came up with a different jargon usage.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The fewer vs less thing is a myth.

You're also using "myth" with a unique meaning here.

Both have been used interchangeable in English for a thousand years or more.

Not exactly. But also irrelevant.

They were never interchangeable, but prior to a couple of centuries ago, you could use less for fewer. You couldn't use fewer for less.

But this is irrelevant. We don't speak the English of 1000 years ago. Prior to 1066 is Old English. When a modern reader reads old English:

Hwæt. We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

They don't think "ooh, look how they used 'fewer'". They think "what language is that?"

It was only the middle class Victorians who tries to make English fit with Latin who came up with a different jargon usage.

Yes. The rules of English are often decided upon. Nonetheless they are.

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'll bet you were an unpopular tattle tale in school, Karen.

[–]Penelope 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Well Aktually...Please disregard, this poster "ActuallyNot". They are a dis-mis info shill shitting up the site.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Murder rate in Australia calculated from Murders in Australia, here, over the population of Australia.

The USA rate, from the graph on this page

Please feel welcome to ask for my sources if I don't provide them. I don't intentionally post misinformation nor disinformation.

[–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Most of the gun violence is black on black here. They just let them kill each other. No fuss, no muss. Bad fucker dead. All the cops have to do is stand there while CSI takes samples and the ambulance takes away the dead carcass. 10 years ago we had this bad guy on the news. His hood name was "Dooky Butt". That is exactly the way the local news reported his name. Dooky Butt. I'm sure he is still at statesville prison.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

Most of the gun violence is black on black here.

Is it?

What data are you using for that?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Here is a good article that displays the disparity in nigger gun violence. It won't change your mind, but you might at least be able to figure out why racist neonazi white supremacists want to keep the 2nd amendment.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/23/young-black-men-teens-made-up-more-than-third-2019-gun-homicides/4559929001/

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Here is a good article that displays the disparity in nigger gun violence.

Again, your use of the racial slur brings to mind the uneducated southern white of a family tree with no branches, who blames the blacks for not having a job. The real reason being that they can't spell "job" without a spell checker.

You arguments would be harder to dismiss if you didn't distract by being offensive. Also "black" has fewer letters. You'll find it just as easy to type.

It won't change your mind,

Your approach certainly isn't helping that, but I'm happy to look at evidence.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2021/02/23/young-black-men-teens-made-up-more-than-third-2019-gun-homicides/4559929001/

That article doesn't even talk about the race of the offender at all. It's a stronger argument that black should want to keep the second amendment than racists.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

This article claims that young nigger men are 20 times more likely to get shot and killed than whites. I'd like to hear your theory on what causes that? It also seems to suggest the gun violence problem is getting worse. What do you think is causing that?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

The article that you linked doesn't even talk about the race of the offender at all.

Do you have any support for the claim that "Most of the gun violence is black on black here"?

Your argument appears to be based solely on being a racist cunt. Irrelevant articles and racial-slur filled posts. You didn't do well at school did you?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Do you have any support for the claim that "Most of the gun violence is black on black here"?

I never made that claim, another user here did though. There are lots of comments, so I completely understand why you would get it mixed up. I will post my claim so you can read it again.

Low nigger population zones in the USA with guns have the same low murder rates. It's the niggers, not the guns.

As far as I know this is true. There are super white states like whidaho and New Hampshire and Maine for example, where gun violence is very low and comparable to Australia. Are all white areas like this? Certainly not, but gun violence tends to be a bigger problem among blacks, which is why they get shot and killed 20x.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I never made that claim, another user here did though. There are lots of comments, so I completely understand why you would get it mixed up.

I didn't get mixed up, but you posted your source in response to my asking for data supporting "Most of the gun violence is black on black here."

I didn't realise you were simply changing the subject.

As far as I know this is true.

Okay. Do you know much about the demographics of murder? Or is "as far as you know" merely as far as a normal uninformed person might speculate?

There are super white states like whidaho and New Hampshire and Maine for example, where gun violence is very low and comparable to Australia.

Idaho has the lowest proportion of blacks of any state, according to this page, but more gun violence than most states according to this page. It does have a high gun ownership.

Alaska has the most gun violence of any state, and a lower proportion of blacks than most states. It does have the third highest proportion gun ownership of any state, according to this page.

I'm getting the feel that gun violence might be more related to gun ownership and less related to racial demographics. We could do a multiple regression to see. So long as gun ownership is not related to proportion African American population.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's hard to tell from the link you posted, but I think firearm mortality rates include gun suicides and accidental shootings? According to this CDC link, the whitest state also has 2nd lowest homicide mortality rate, which would include both gun and non-gun homicide, however we can obviously correctly assume the gun homicide rate is less than the total homicide rate. If you're concerned about getting murdered, then I would suggest sorting low to high and selecting one of these white states. If you're worried about suicide then I would avoid Alaska. I've heard the long dark can cause depression.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Okay. Do you know much about the demographics of murder? Or is "as far as you know" merely as far as a normal uninformed person might speculate?

Unfortunately I had a severe fever from covid and sustained some moderate brain damage from it, so I don't know as much as I did before, but someone just posted the latest numbers here in this same forum. I'm no longer good with numbers, but it looks like niggers are murdering eachother a lot. What do you think is causing this?

https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/8f9o/new_fbi_crime_stats_are_out_blacks_break_new/

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Lol, yes I remember a Dookie Butt shooting when I lived in Chicago. Not sure if it's the same one. Young nigger men are literally 20 times more likely to get shot than young white men. Why do niggers stay killing eachother?

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Here in Chattanooga there is black crime and there is white crime. White crime does time. Black crime gets dropped on the street to get shot. Plenty of unsolved black murders in town.

[–]IkeConn 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

That 5.5% difference is the black on black murders. Our judges let blacks out of jail so they can go back to the hood and get shot dead by other gang bangers. Why put them in prison when it is cheaper to just allow them to kill each other.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (15 children)

Plausible. The data I found at was only for the FBI-investigated murders, and only for single victim and single perpetrator.

But that data has only about half (slightly less) of the murders by black people. Where you're suggesting that it is in fact the vast majority.

What data are you using?

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

His/Her specific claim was for gun violence, not just gun murders. Niggers often shoot each other and miss or shoot eachother and survive after receiving medical care. I am not sure if there is reliable data coming out of the ghetto on drivebys, but shootings tend to be concentrated in black neighborhoods.

Edit: Not sure what country youre from, but here in the United States it's like everyone knows this from watching local news or word-of-mouth on neighborhood reputation. Jamal isn't going to tell some jewish doctor how many people he shot at this month.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

His/Her specific claim was for gun violence, not just gun murders.

Are you sure?

When they say "That 5.5% difference is the black on black murders", most people would understand that to mean black on black murders.

Niggers often shoot each other and miss or shoot eachother and survive after receiving medical care.

And here we suspect why you appeared to misread the comment. People who use offensive racial slurs aren't known for their reading comprehension.

You'd make more headway if you modified your language so as not to project such poor education performance.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Are you sure?

Yes, I am referring to this specific claim:

"Most of the gun violence is black on black here."

Not all gun violence results in a murder. You seem to be fixated on murder statistics, which doesn't capture all of the gun violence. Niggers often shoot while holding their pistol sideways. This looks cool, but it results in less actual niggers getting murdered because the bullets miss.

Also, some gun violence involves no shooting at all. For example, Jamal might use his glock to rob a rival drug dealer of his crack rock or rob the corner store.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

You seem to be fixated on murder statistics, which doesn't capture all of the gun violence.

I'd be happy to look at gun violence statistics if you've got some with relevant break downs, or comparison between the US and Australia.

However, my initial point was that Australia has a lot fewer murders then the USA. Hence the focus on murder.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Have you ever lived in the United States or spent time in an american ghetto? If not, I would recommend spending some time in the real world. Gun violence in the United States is concentrated in these ghettos. You can use google to get some statistics on this, but the data is unreliable because it would be like asking a bunch of chimps how many ounces of poop they threw this week. The victims of nigger gun violence are often criminals themselves and even if not, niggers have a moral code against snitching, so we have fewer reliable data.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

You're probably not going to care too much, but n-blasting isn't really going to strengthen your points with them. Anyhow, as evidenced by their use of "s" in the place of "z" in spelling words, they're not American and likely live in a high enough income area to keep themselves blissfully unaware of gun violence realities, or the black folks that end up hurt within those communities as a result of them.

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Niggers are so annoying

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Agreed. This is why america is still racially segregated. Whites can't stand to live near them.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

Judging, as people do, by your choice of racial slurs, you're not going to be able to understand why personal experience is a more biased data set and far too small to reach conclusions, much less conclusions of the standard that can be achieved from statistics.

You seem to be claiming some of the black gun violence isn't included in the statistics. That doesn't affect that Australia murder rate is lower than the white American murder rate.

[–]Blackbrownfreestuff 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That doesn't affect that Australia murder rate is lower than the white American murder rate.

Agreed, but we already established that murder rates in the United States are elevated because of the nigger population and supported it with data. Idaho, called whidaho as a racist derogatory term by leftists, has tons of guns, and the homicide rate is similar to Australia.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/homicide_mortality/homicide.htm

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Excellent points in the thread. You might not want to mention which country you're in, even if generally it's OK to do so.