People are really now arguing that all children must be put on puberty blocking hormones, period. Anyone who disagrees must be uninformed.

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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (47 children)

I'm trans, and this shit pisses me off. Putting children on hormone blockers is abuse! It stunts their growth, and ironically makes them incapable of "aquir[ing] that ability" because hormones are a huge factor in whether or not someone is trans.

And naturally, hormone therapy and sexual reassignment surgery are both no-gos for children too, especially the latter, which I believe should be banned until age twenty-five (since it's permanent and life-changing).

[–]jet199 12 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 1 fun13 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

It's funny that it's middle aged men pushing that these drugs should be available so kids can pass better when they grow up but most of these kids are now female. The main side effect of these drugs is they stunt growth. For FTM trans height is the main tell. This is why they look like 12 year old boys with moustaches drawn on. For girls with gender dysphoria they actually make it much harder to pass. Can anyone name a single benefit of these drugs for female trans kids? Yet they are they main people being prescribed them.

I mean there is a theory that peados find these child-like women attractive, the drugs also stop your brain maturing and drop your IQ, so that could be a factor.

[–]purrvana 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

They also don't develop sexual maturity, so no orgasms. It seems creepy... like keeping kids sexually immature forever but constantly trying to make them live up to an expectation that they can't meet, so they'll always be looking for approval. Super weird.

[–]Intuit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Like we do with pet dogs and cats.

[–]madcow-5 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

There's a trans guy who works at the coffee shop next door to my house, and they've never done anything to harm me, but they make me uneasy as fuck. They look like a tiny framed fourteen year old girl, but with a beard and mustache.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Can you imagine what Ellen Page would look like if she took testosterone. I mean people often don't get how tiny actresses are and think they are just model thin. No, they are tiny in every way, fragile and bird like.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Next gen hobbit sex slaves.

[–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I'm against transgenderism. But it's your life. If transgenders unify against transhumanism than that's a plus

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It probably ain't gon'o happen, though, because most transfolks are brainwashed idiots — which is a major reason their 'Community' left me behind. They do whatever the DNC tells them to do, while insisting they're free; I don't buy it.

[–]madcow-5 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

The reassignment surgery should be a no go for adults too. You want breast implants, fine. But chopping off your penis and scrambling your sexual organs around into a Frankenstein's monster of a pretend organ is seriously sick and should not be encouraged.

I'm not saying trans people don't exist, but cutting off your dick and stabbing a hole in yourself is not a vagina.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

If you're over the age of twenty-five, I believe you should be allowed to have cosmetic surgeries. Your doctor can say no, but I don't want to give the government that power.

[–]madcow-5 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I'm genuinely torn. If it's legal, I think it should be heavily discouraged. Again, I'm not talking about breast implants, which I consider cosmetic.

I mean cutting up your dick and basically drilling a hole in yourself to pretend is a vagina. That's more than cosmetic, that's functional. It's like if the new trend amongst young people were to be having their legs removed. I don't think anyone encouraging it is trying to help these people, I think there are genuinely evil people out there trying to convince people to do something horrific to themselves.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, I discourage having surgery, especially in regards to genitalia. This is a major reason why I oppose state laws that require surgery to change your sex marker, because they promote doing it. I know it's supposed to be a "compromise", but in reality it helps no one. Even banning sex marker changes would be better.

If you want a real compromise, how about we have a marker for sex, which can never be changed, and a marker for gender or pronouns, which can? It won't make both sides completely happy, but at least it won't entirely upset them either. I'm gon'o admit: this my ideal solution, so perhaps it's biased, but I'm a centrist, so perhaps not.

But the fake vaginas ain't really functional, because you can't have children with them. You can have sex with them, but that makes it more of a sex toy than an organ. That's another reason I don't like it, because other than state laws requiring surgery for a sex marker change, there's really no'n other than fetishism that drives people to have these surgeries.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I want to cut of my penis, cut it in half and sew it on my shoulder blades so that over the next 10 years I can stretch them out into dick wings. Either that, or sew it on my forehead to be a unicorn.

[–]hfxB0oyA 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I do appreciate hearing from sane trans people.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks, I wish more of us weren't brainwashed idiots.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I agree, kids aren't mentally and physically ready for hormone blockers, and anyone that makes their kids trans for only fame or to seem special should honestly be ashamed of themselves.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Definitely, that would be child abuse — even if the kid asks for it, because they can't consent.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yep, kids can't consent to making serious decisions.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's so'm the left will never understand.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Sigh I'm glad I'm not associating with far left loonies that say really harmful beliefs and ideas.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yeah... and this ain't even far-left, it's mainstream. Pedophilia is mainstream in both parties, it's just that the Republicans try to hide it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

God dammit, why, just why. I still hate the human race for not fixing itself. I give up.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

American is fucked, man.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It really is by the sounds of it.

[–]denverkris 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think you're the minority of the minority, and other trans people would probably call you names for that (perfectly reasonable) view.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Definitely. I've been called a Nazi for being pro-life... the irony is lost on them.

[–]denverkris 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Interesting. I'm pro choice politically because I don't think the government should be allowed to force women to deal with a medical condition (pregnancy) on their terms. Same as how im pretty gc/radfem but I'd never support a ban on gender affirming care of any kind for adults.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Putting children on hormone blockers is abuse!

We used to not be able to stop puberty and allow children a choice. Now we can. They can always go through puberty later if they make the choice to be cis.

[–]jet199 13 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/lupron-precocious-puberty-decades-regulatory-silence/

Nope puberty blockers destroy bone density and cause an IQ drop of up to 10 points and both things are not reversible.

Puberty is a complex process in which multiple things have to happen at the same time. If you stop it it can't happen again later, the human body clock simply doesn't work like that.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I had puberty 3 times yesterday.

[–]purrvana 12 insightful - 3 fun12 insightful - 2 fun13 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

It's still extremely harmful. Look at Jazz Jennings. He went on puberty blockers and therefore only ever grew a micro-penis. When he eventually got surgery to get a "vagina", he didn't have enough penile tissue to turn it inside out to make a neo-vag. The poor kid had to go through multiple surgeries, take skin off his thighs, and be in constant pressure/pain. He also will never have an orgasm, never have children, doesn't know what sexual stimulation or arousal is, etc.

Even if he didn't get the surgery and changed his mind, he'd still have a micro-penis and diminished sexual maturity/arousal.

And to top that off, he'll never be a woman no matter how many surgeries he gets. There is no surgery that can turn a male into a fully functional female, or vice versa. He still looks like a boy, even after all that. Telling children they can change sex is a lie.

It's a horrible life.

[–]RedditExPat69 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

what 'choice'? You're either born with a penis or born with a vagina. Delusional attempts by liberal idiots only result in mental illness, insanity, and suicide.

stopping puberty is child abuse Any parent who does should have their children taken from them and the parents summarily executed for child sex crimes.

[–]C3P0 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I'm willing to accept two different scenarios: one where gender and sex are the same thing, and another where transgenderism exists along side transracialism, trans-specism, and even people who identify as an adjective (such as orange) for an infinitely-brief lapse of time.

[–]RedditExPat69 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Well, I'm actually a Decepticon and will piss wherever the hell I want to because ALL HAIL MEGATRON!!

[–]C3P0 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I identify as the president of the united states, so don't stop me from having a sleepover in the white house.

[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

They can always go through puberty later if they make the choice to be cis.

That's what we call "stunting growth".

[–]insta 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

People think "puberty blockers" work like the pause button on their Nintendo switch.

Just start and stop whenever you want with no consequences whatsoever.

[–]C3P0 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

Don't argue with science.

[–]C3P0 7 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

It sounds like you're promoting child abuse to me because delaying puberty until 20 does not have the same result as puberty occurring naturally at 12.

[–]denverkris 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not how it works. PB's have been shown to have some pretty severe side effects including long lasting problems with bone density and who knows what else, all to chase after something that they can never truly achieve. If you're fully grown, as in 25+, then go for it, but medically unnecessary/cosmetic drugs and surgeries should be a hard NO for kids.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I think you mentioned that once before. Trans but not transhuman, I assume. Punny, I know.

What ability?

Ever see this? /s/MovieAnalysis/comments/6z0g/thoughts_on_gross_movies_1212_nyx_fears/

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Not gon'o lie, a lot of my comments are just the same thing reworded.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I didn't know Nyx had transed. The content still seems okay. Sometimes he'd do great content. I'd drifted away for a long time.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I have no idea what you're talking about.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Nyx Fears is a YouTube channel hosted by Nyx a goth dude who's now apparently a goth chick.

I wasn't a super fan but I viewed his content, as always with everyone hoping for great stuff, on regular basis for a while and somehow drifted away.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ok okay.