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[–]magnora7 29 insightful - 4 fun29 insightful - 3 fun30 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

I just want to mention that Mao's communist china actually outlawed bodybuilding. It was federally illegal to bodybuild in China for several decades.

That's why Tai-Chi and other forms of martial arts became so popular in China, because bodybuilding was disallowed but martial arts was not. This is why you see groups of ladies in China doing Tai-Chi together in the park, and why this has become a staple of Chinese culture. They're literally exercising their rights.

[–]asterias 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Actually traditional martial arts were outlawed during the Cultural Revolution. Certain forms were allowed as a form of calisthenics for the shake of exercise and exhibition.

In the People's Republic of China (PRC), taijiquan was supported by Mao Zedong as part of his initiative to develop wushu (martial arts) as exhibition sports. All martial arts were standardised, and in 1956, the PRC government tasked a team of experts with the creation of the first ‘modernised’ taijiquan form, the ‘simplified 24-step Taijiquan’ (based on Yang style). The official face of taijiquan changed during the Cultural Revolution; practice was particularly difficult due to persecution of martial artists.14 As a result, many martial artists retreated to Taiwan with Chiang Kai-shek and to other Asian countries where there was greater freedom of practice. However, as Deng Xiaoping's rectification programme progressed in the late 1970s and 1980s, there was significant uptake of taijiquan in China.

https://read.dukeupress.edu/easts/article/2/4/525/25984/Globalisation-and-the-Internal-Alchemy-In-Chinese

In an radio interview conducted for BBC Radio’s Eastern Horizon programme, noted Chen Taijiquan teacher Chen Zhenglei explained: “The biggest setback for Tai Chi and all martial arts was during the Cultural Revolution when people were not able to practice freely and martial arts became outlawed. Tai Chi and other martial arts diminished in China. When China opened its gates again to the rest of the world, its rich culture was promoted and martial arts became standardised and simplified in the process. This had its pros and cons too, allowing more people to learn, but this ultimately diluted and changed the virtues of the traditional form”.

https://www.chentaijiquangb.com/jama-history

There's also this video discussing the subject.

Altogether, maybe the regime feared the possibility of a revolution and permitted only "government approved" martial arts?

[–]FediNetizen 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yeah during the Mao era they tried to erase most existing culture, which was standard communist practice at the time. Now with Xi they're trying to stoke nationalist sentiment, and as a part of that they're trying to reintroduce Chinese tradition.

[–]Yahooisnolongermyfav 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

" as a part of that they're trying to reintroduce Chinese tradition"

Which would imply they banned traditiknal Chinese culture before. It would be senseless for Mai or other people who govern a country to erase that countrys culture only the Dems do that and look at what they ve achieved.

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh that's an interesting additional piece of the story I was unaware of, thanks.

I think the past suppression of Tai-Chi is somewhat similar to China's current suppression of Falun Gong

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

TIL

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Bodybuilding is a bellcurve.

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    [–]sylla94 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

    have some comments then

    https://i.imgur.com/iwUOBnC.png

    [–]shariajustice 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    why would dead men work out anyways?

    [–][deleted] 12 insightful - 5 fun12 insightful - 4 fun13 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

    Not really that surprising - the doctrine of 3rd and 4th wave feminism has gone to the point that us guys doing anything even vaguely considered masculine is considered a "sexist nazi attack against women", fuck, even guys with less masculine pass times are attacked by these feminazis for being "weak nerds" - I'd probably get lynched by a bitch like this because of my interests in tech and politics - there's just no winning with far leftist types, they're too deluded and hypocritical. This article is just as absurd as that article from CNN about Thomas the Train and Paw Patrol being "fascist" that Cr1TiKal made fun of a couple years ago.

    [–]AnarchySpeach 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Physical fitness creates a cycle of toxic masculinity that must be eradicated.

    God fucking damn. I wish this was satire but this already sounds like the type of website designed to fight logic tooth and nail. How in the fuck is being healthy "toxic." That's like... That's like the exact opposite of what toxic means.

    maintain a level of physical fitness if they want to be respected in society. This belief was created purposefully as a way to ensure that the patriarchal agenda lives on by continuing to force women into submission via intimidation.

    I've seen fat people online that know martial arts. You can look them up on youtube. These people are fighters and don't even look like it. Just because someone looks strong doesn't mean they instantly know how to fight.

    Women are, on average, intellectually superior to men.

    lmfao

    First off, that's sexist. 2nd, wtf does that have to do with working out? It's just a throwaway line that has nothing to do with the topic they're talking about. It's bullshit bitch signaling.

    resulting in extreme aggression and physical confrontation.

    It's funny they say this. I've seen two hoes fight and I can tell you right now, women have plenty of aggression. Nobody's talking about taking a knife to them.

    lack of emotional intelligence

    And this is the part that pisses me off. Anybody who thinks this bullshit is true needs to look up suicide statistics.

    Ask round. Your average woman isn't going to date the crybaby bitch that isn't going to consider protecting her. Not only is it an evolutionary advantage to mate with someone that will protect offspring, but it also shows that the guy cares about the family. Guys have emotions too, but only girls are allowed to show them. Guys can't. Guy's didn't make that a rule. Women did. This whole concept that extra testosterone between the sexes turn men into killing machines is complete bullshit.

    Websites like these make up nonsense to attract crazy people looking for excuses as to why people don't kneel before them.

    [–]RuckFeddit 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    "Why don't men talk about their feelings?"
    Because if you do so you will be dropped by your partner. That or she'll just be fucking other guys without telling you.

    Women have no time for what they perceive as weak men. It's a natural reaction for them to be repulsed. You have to take everything and smile, because although you are "equal" today, you aren't really. It's still your job to be stoic as a man as that is what she expects. "Have your cake and eat it too" as they say, the male partner must both look like a man out of a Netflix series and maintain all of the stoicism and male traits of his predecessors. Somehow you must be able to dress him, command him like a dog, but he still has to be independent and strong so you still maintain respect for him. Somehow.

    [–]HibikiBlack 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    You pretty much nailed it. The people supporting these groups are usually narcissists of the worst kind and the groups themselves are breeding grounds for the worst kinds of moral degeneracy. We gotta take the power away from this lunatics and save the Internet.

    [–]AnarchySpeach 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    We gotta take the power away from this lunatics and save the Internet.

    We're half way there: https://saidit.net/s/TimPool/comments/6cne/trump_launches_nuclear_option_over_social_media/

    The first step is to create an even ground where debate is protected by law.

    [–][deleted] 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Damn. Why would anyone that is healthy want to switch to the beginnings of an unhealthy lifestyle? Horrible advice.

    Fuck Clown World.

    [–]Aureus 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    No.

    [–]soyboy77 5 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

    Oh, so this is like misogyny in reverse

    [–]yishengqingwa666 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    No.

    [–]againstsinglemother2 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (2 children)

    I promise not to work out if you promise to get and stay fit as fuck and lemme bounce all over you just as often as before I quit.

    [–]SaidOverRed 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    If they are young the first part is easy (pre-insulin metabolic poisoning), and if they are leftist they will, you know, be easy. So you can degrade yourself like that if you want.

    [–]horatioherbert 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Could you explain... nevermind

    [–]jet199 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]Ethnocrat 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    Of course they show a White Chad as the rapist.

    [–]RuinedRook 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I am unsure whether or not this is satire. If yes, props to the author.

    [–]Trajan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    It’s difficult to tell. She has a bizarre YouTube video in which she claims to have stolen a ham from a store, which she then gives a burial. In the other video she’s memorialising her dog, but it has a weird line in there about the dog being homophobic. While I’m leaning towards satire, I would not be surprised to see her get a Guardian column.

    [–]RuinedRook 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I would not be surprised to see her get a Guardian column.

    Haha, so true.

    e: Could you link the youtube you mentioned? not having much luck tracking it down.

    [–]Trajan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    [–]RuinedRook 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thanks! I'm going to lean towards parody.

    [–]Skipdip 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

    This is feminism at its most confused. “Women are intellectually superior to men” nope. Feminism gets confused when people believe in gender. Thinking that women are smarter than men is believing in gender. Both sexes have equal intelligence.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

    Both sexes have equal intelligence.

    Wrong. https://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/SexDifferences.aspx

    "Male and female mean IQs are about equal below the age of 15 but males have a higher mean IQ from age 15 on. The effect of sex differences in IQ is largest at the high extreme of intelligence. Since many of the more prestigious roles in society are associated with high IQ, the lack of female representation in these roles may be partially due to fewer females being competitive at the highest levels. "

    [–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Straw man. /u/Skipdip's claim is that both sexes have equal intelligence, not that both sexes have equal IQ scores. Respond to the claim.

    [–]Skipdip 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    What is intelligence if not intelligence? But yes it probably does extend to IQ scores, which as far as I know is a relatively controversial way to quantify intelligence. You’re very demanding, though, and it seems like you do believe males as a group are smarter than females. Check this out: https://youtu.be/hTLfiBTtE88

    [–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    it seems like you do believe males as a group are smarter than females.

    Maybe you are responding to /u/tseug, but I don't think they are smarter nor equal.

    If one agreed that one gender were smarter than the other, then it might be true that one race is smarter than the other race (if you equate intelligence and IQ scores then this statement is true).

    [–]Skipdip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    I was responding to him. The sexes have some differences, but are equal where it matters. Gender is a construct, the word refers to stereotypical sex norms and was coined in 1968. See this video for differences between sex and gender. https://youtu.be/g7mMgykM5Us

    [–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I don't believe in that stuff about gender and sex being different. Thanks anyways.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    IQ scores are the best measure we have for intellegence. How is that a straw man?

    [–]C3P0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    How is that a straw man?

    You first have to prove that X is equal to Y. If intelligence is not equal to IQ scores then you have no argument. (Perhaps not necessarily equal. Nearly equal would be good enough. 1% accurate might even be useful, but there is a lot of controversy about how accurate IQ scores are.)

    Conflating Y with X is a straw man.

    IQ scores are the best [or only] measure, [therefore they are an accurate measure.]

    That's another fallacy. Imagine you have a telescope capable of giving the chance of alien life in a visible galaxy. The telescope gives readings, 2%, 5%, 20%, 1%, 0.00001%, etc. However, you actually have no idea if that galaxy contains alien life. You might go to the 100% galaxy then find nothing. You might go to the 0% galaxy and find an abundance of life.

    Humans have no accurate measure of human intelligence. They can't even make a drone as nimble or smart as a bee using materials a hundred times the size. Humans don't even understand what sleeping does--don't even pretend there is a magic number to estimate intelligence.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    don't even pretend there is a magic number to estimate intelligence.

    I don't have to pretend, because that's what it is, an estimation. Obviously it's not perfect. Show me a genius with a low IQ score or vice versa.

    [–]Skipdip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    [–]Skipdip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    I'm not watching a one hour interview, point me to the raw data that proves your claim.

    [–]Skipdip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I have bigger problems. You can skim this. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    Weak. Yes your problem is you're a member of a brainswashed cult.

    [–]Skipdip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    I was gonna respond to this baiting, but literally I can’t get involved. Why don’t you go to the gendercritical sub and have this conversation about sex and intelligence with people who aren’t in the middle of a personal crisis. Dickhead.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Good luck with the scissoring ;)

    [–]Skipdip 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Thank you that’s very considerate of you

    [–]Skipdip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    you clearly are not very intelligent. Presumptuous sexist. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_intelligence

    [–]FediNetizen 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Turns out this is actually satire. Thank goodness.

    [–]dramasexual 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

    This actually is the onion. Article is satire.

    [–][deleted]  (3 children)

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      [–]dramasexual 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (2 children)

      I like you.

      [–]againstsinglemother2 5 insightful - 7 fun5 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 7 fun -  (1 child)

      [–]dramasexual 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (0 children)

      LOL

      [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      Right. Gotta fit in those skinny jeans. Is it time yet for women to drop the WO?

      [–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      The author's avatar is thoroughly unsurprising.

      [–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      [–]the-ham-bummer 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      War is peace, freedom is slavery, fitness is illness.

      [–]Skipdip 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Yes, this liberal feminist is evidently more of a sheep than a deep thinker. It hurts the credibility of real feminists but oh well.

      [–]Intuit 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      This has got to be parody.

      Women are, on average, intellectually superior to men. This intellectual maturity allows them to have a greater hold on their emotions when faced with confrontation.

      ...

      Unfortunately, castration is not an option for humans at this point in time due to lack of research in the field of synthetically engineered sperm which is necessary for procreation.

      – Anonymous Medical Doctor with a PhD.

      ...

      Don’t remain a sheep for the rest of your life.

      [–]BigFatRetard 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      "Toxic masculinity" is hilarious because every time someone talks about it, they need a massive "I'm not racist, but" speech immediately beforehand.

      [–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Flag in the background says it all. I'm not the voice for all women, but it's appreciated when men actively put themselves into some form of physical activity. I would think that would even reduce aggression. Surely there are studies. People have a need to expend energy, and exercise is a pretty great way to do that for both sexes and all ages.

      [–]Skipdip 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Healthy intelligent movement is good for everyone

      [–]flugegeheimen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It looks like pink Babylon Bee.

      [–]Yahooisnolongermyfav 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Well, I have to agree with the beautiful, sexy author.

      I do some running, volley ball and tennis to get my blood flowing. It s more than enough and I don t know if I d get more girls if I was more of a culturist I certainly don t think so.

      [–]ANIKAHirsch 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      The narrative of toxic masculinity needs to die yesterday. Men should be masculine.

      Toxic behavior is way more common in feminine men.

      [–]proc0 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Working out is about performance, something that women and weak men don't understand because they don't want their makeup to smear.