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[–]Jalaces 20 insightful - 4 fun20 insightful - 3 fun21 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

Depression is an illness. If she had low grade diabetes would this article say she should be cured by the price of her house? If they are mad that she's rich then just be mad about that. But they are mad that she's not happy. How dare a woman not be happy all the time. How dare a black woman have emotions. How dare a woman have health issues. Silly woman it's clearly all in her head.

[–]Chipit[S] 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The privileged and powerful should not be leaning on the rest of society seeking sympathy for their problems. They could do us all a favor by jumping into woodchippers and the world would be a better place afterwards.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Great point. I don't really care if Big Mike is depressed or not. But, exposing your wimpiness to the public isn't going to help anyone become a VP candidate.

[–]foreskin_burglar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Who said she’s seeking sympathy? You’re making great assumptions here. She expressed on her own personal podcast that she’s depressed due to the state of the world. We’re all going through the same thing. Anyone of any background who cares about what’s going on right now is feeling the same thing. Is she not allowed to publicly say anything personal ever, just because she’s rich and powerful?

Don’t be mad at her for being privileged, powerful, and having showed a glimpse of human quality on her podcast. She’s leveling with people and connecting with her audience. If you listen to the clip of the podcast yourself, it’s clear she’s not asking for sympathy, but describing a difficult reality that everyone can relate to right now.

Instead, be annoyed at the media for wasting the world’s time with yet another junk food story, and painting this in a way that made you react in such a heartless manner. Please take pause. React less, research more.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Don’t be mad at her for being privileged, powerful,

Why not? The 1% are the problem. If they all killed themselves tomorrow, most of our problems would stop. The world's constant wars would stop. We could make real change.

that made you react in such a heartless manner.

You're defending the powerful and attacking me, a nobody. Do you not realize you're doing this? You don't speak truth to the powerless.

[–]foreskin_burglar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If the current 1% all dropped dead, a new 1% would form in its place. The problem as I see it is not that there are powerful people, but that regular people don’t have enough of a voice. It’s a complex problem that requires more of a complex solution that ‘kill the rich and powerful’. One of many improvements could be having stronger local government and more community involvement there. Think of the last time you felt, if ever, involved in the politics of your town. It’s important, and nonexistent in most people’s lives.

I don’t think that pointing out that you’ve said very mean things is particularly an attack on you. Nevertheless, I apologize. I’m also not particularly ‘defending the powerful’. I’m simply defending the idea that we shouldn’t hate someone just because they’re powerful. I choose to dislike people based on their actions (or inactions).

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Nah, the 1% are disproportionately sociopaths. Remove them, and the world is a better place. "Eat the rich", remember?

All of my arguments are sound ones, and used on any other member of the 1% you'd be applauding. It's just because this lady is one of your tribe, so you're not treating her like the enemy. Spoiler alert: she's not in your tribe. She would never have anything to do with a disgusting commoner like yourself. Like George Carlin said, "It's a club, and you ain't in it."

[–]foreskin_burglar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Lol, she’s not in my ‘tribe’. I’m not a fan of hers, I don’t follow her at all, but I also don’t hate her.

Generally speaking, I don’t need to be passionate about someone or something to stand up against words or actions I feel are disrespectful or unlawful.

All of my arguments are sound ones, and used on any other member of the 1% you'd be applauding.

Again, you make great assumptions. My view of the world, regardless of the group, is much more nuanced than that. I think you’re projecting, given your tendencies to generalize and jump to conclusions.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I think she is. These "leave her alone!" reactions happen when people we care about are attacked. Tribal membership is the most likely explanation. Despite Michelle not reciprocating, but ruling class are like that.

The world would be a better place without every single one of these predominantly sociopaths.

[–]foreskin_burglar 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your view of human nature is overly simplistic. Sure, you could say that a significant portion of people base their opinions purely on emotion, but not everyone. I certainly don’t belong in that bucket of emotional/tribalist thinkers. But it appears that you do, because you’ve demonstrated that you are passionately in the ‘commoner’ tribe and vehemently against the ‘rich’ tribe.

We’re talking past each other. You’re so keen on asserting that the way you view the world, and view a complete stranger like myself, is fact, rather than engaging in a discussion.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

you are passionately in the ‘commoner’ tribe and vehemently against the ‘rich’ tribe.

You are, too. What you have is called "false consciousness". If you are not woke to the reality of systemic oppression of the 99% by the 1%. See: https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-false-consciousness/