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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

The reason we can trust science and not the sickos who write comments like this is because science is - by definition - a self-questioning mechanism, thanks to which dangerous substances and corporations have been regulated. Question the right-wing 1% and corporations who push anti-science propaganda.

[–]turtlew0rk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why didn't science question itself when it was wrong all those times?

"Question the right-wing 1% and corporations who push anti-science propaganda."

100% agree. Which is why I am not subjecting myself to a one size fits all medical treatment I do not need, does not work, and only lines the pockets of the 1% and corporations you speak of.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

one size fits all

Vaccines are not that complicated, as they only target virus strains - so one size does indeed fit all

medical treatment I do not need

It's not about you, specifically, but about reducing the spread of a deadly and debilitating virus

does not work

It does. Look at the statistics

and only lines the pockets of the 1% and corporations you speak of

Big pharma has earned a few billion, which is still a 'drop in the bucket' by contrast with the broader scheme of the profits of Big corp, the 1% &c (in the trillions).

[–]turtlew0rk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Vaccines are not that complicated, as they only target virus strains - so one size does indeed fit all

MRNA vaccines are not complicated? Are you a rocket surgeon or am I just dumb? They seem complicated.

It's not about you, specifically, but about reducing the spread of a deadly and debilitating virus

Agreed. Other people should have no opinion on my vaccine status and I have none about theirs.

It does. Look at the statistics

I don't think I can argue you there because I have lost track of what the vaccine is supposed to do to be considered effective. But T the very least I thought it meant I would no longer need a mask. They removed that carrot at the end of the stick for me which probably would have made me reconsider eventually.

lines the pockets of the 1% and corporations you speak of

Big pharma has earned a few billion, which is still a 'drop in the bucket' by contrast with the broader scheme of the profits of Big corp, the 1% &c (in the trillions).

So big pharma is OK? What other big corps? The sub trillions ones are OK? Which corp is making a trillion?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I refer to Big Corp profits in general, which - in the US - passed $1 trillion in the early 2000s. See the chart here:

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CP

The reason this is a serious problem in the US is the increasing rate of income inequelity (which is having serious consequences). See these charts:

https://ourworldindata.org/income-inequality

[–]turtlew0rk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Ok? So wouldn't Big Pharma be included in the those general profits? Like one of the the big major huge extravagant profits even before this pandemic, price gouging, opioid epidemic, fraudulent marketing claims and countless other crimes over the years?

None of that contributes to income inequality or serious consequences? Or not enough to risk being infected with a mild to severe virus with a low mortality rate and instead agree to endless jabs and boosts and profits and all that comes with it?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Certainly. I am against the abuses of Big pharma and Big corp and would argue that they should have received much much bigger fines for those abuses. (I am however not against science or vaccines, which are part of a global resarch project, of which US Big pharma is only a portion. And it helped to have US Big pharma in order to respond to COVID. Alternatives to this process were vaccine factories in India, China and Russia, which I think have been less regulated than the Pfizer factories.)

[–]turtlew0rk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I am however not against science or vaccines

Me neither.

Big pharma is only a portion.

Seriously?