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[–]RuckusChan[S] 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

I think the point stands and some men are looking less men...Whatever dude if you see it as a buff gay thing then that's you, Charlton Heston and Eastwood and Kirk Douglas could play tough guys without looking like muscle Rambo action stars, they didnt have this Conan sword man shoot 'em up action movie meat thing to them, Jackie Chan can play tough even though he's smaller in stature, he's a martial artist and an expert at performing fight in front of camera. I can accept Ironman or Batman as scifi gadget nerdy people, that's their cartoonish character but I think a tough warrior-ish guy should be in shape when he should play a warrior, they should command an action role. I think the point still stands although it could be argued that Russel Crowe Gladiator and the Thor actor Hemsworth are that classic solider Action hero look, they sometimes have that Roman, Greek, Soviet / US Soldier Warrior look. I do sometimes wonder if they did put something in the water over the years, men are going more feminine while women are going more men-ish what does it say when an old guy like "Chuck" Norris is brought back to play action heroes in the modern movies? The modern Hulk is an almost pure CGI creation, most Marvel is gone CGI.

[–]emanresu 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I would need to actually look at studies for this, but here's a news source for removing it from water:

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2010/07/29/atrazine-treatment

Also, low testosterone is an issue that's plaguing men across continents-- and that includes areas that may not use this herbicide, and cultures where eating foods produced with it may not be culturally common. Look into phthalates though.

https://agsense.org/atrazine-not-banned-in-the-eu/

According to this site, it's not illegal in the EU.

[–]Ash 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's also a correlation between low sperm count in Men, the transition of male to female amphibians and 17α-Ethinylestradiol (EE2- an estrogen) in our waters. EE2 is an active agent in most birth control pills and difficult to remove from our waters.

[–]_baal_ 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

And to add to this, if you look at gay population centers in the USA along with an atrazine spill map, you'll find larger gay populations near atrazine spills.

[–]Ash 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Yep - one of the trends since the late 80s has been to favor the "new age sensitive guys" over the traditional tough guys, and indeed some of these "beefcakes" had to take on "new age sensitive guy" roles in 90's movies. There were also women in the late 80's-early 90s were also missing the old early 70's Clint Eastwood type, and lamenting the trend for the "new age sensitive guy". Economies have also shifted to favoring "thinking" professions, so the entertainment industry wants to attract the new demographic. But if one truly misses these beefcakes from the 80s, they should at least admit that they like or admire the muscular male body, even if it's not necessarily for sexual reasons.