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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This book by Gore Vidal, gave me the first glimpse into how Hollywood is run. I haven't seen the movie, but I heard it was quite different in its presentation. Myra, knew the archetypes they seek out and beat the system.

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What is the book about?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's been a really long time since I read it so I maybe way off. What I remember was a "woman" goes to an acting school. She has some experiences with the people around the movie industry and uses her mind and body to get what she wants.

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Did you miss the overt theme of transsexuality, or is that not in the book?

Ok, never mind, I think that's what your question marks implied..

[–]ISaidWhatISaid 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I find that most transsexuals hating on the book/film are not interested in the actual story behind Gore Vidal's book. They just wants to use the book as their own "Whipping Girl" to suggest that 1960s literature sexualized transwomen rather than the book being a product of a homophobic culture&time where coming out was not an option & transitioning was a survival strategy for closeted gay men. TRA's mistreatment & misrepresentation of Vidal's story as "pulp" & side-stepping the gay man who inspired the book shows a fundamental inability to appreciate the deep-rooted homophobia of past & current America. For example, TRA Julia Serano complained in Whipping Girl that "Myra does not identify as a woman, but rather as a homosexual man who has transitioned to female in order to seduce men.". Isn't that literally every HSTS?

See, they attack Gore Vidal & other respected intellectuals & thinkers amongst the old school US homosexuals, but then they wonder "Why does the LGB want to drop the T? Why isn't there more solidarity?". Um, because you do not respect your gay elders & just want to aim your arrows at them as easy targets? You have no understanding of or appreciation for their context? I remember when I first got on Youtube, I literally did this: looked up cat videos, make-up tutorials & binge-watched Gore Vidal interviews for days. Gawd, now I miss Gore Vidal, I wish he had been alive today to comment on TRAs in his typical acerbic manner! Oh, how the graveyards are populated with the greatest minds becoming worm food when we need them the most! Anyway, Gore Vidal is gone so now we have to put our brains together and think for ourselves, which is exactly why I advocate independent thinking.

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

So you think the story portrays the time period, realistically?

[–]ISaidWhatISaid 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I wasn't alive in the 1970s so I will never know what it was truly like, but to me this movie comes across like it's an exaggerated almost caricatural depiction of the time. But that's how I feel about movies from the 1980s and 1990s that are set in those decades too, because I actually remember what it was like to grow up then, and it was nothing like it was depicted in movies from those decades. Such depictions are always distorted in one way or another.

[–]ANIKAHirsch[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I see. Thanks for sharing your perspective with me.