Politics and Religion

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[–]Stankmango 4 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 7 fun -  (2 children)

My gramp's top shelf maxim. His second blunderbuster is "If we came from monkeys then how come there are monkeys around today?" Always a classic.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

"If cheese comes from milk, then why is there still milk around?"

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Your grandpa is Steve Harvey?

Steve fucking Harvey... :-/.

;-)

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I have had this idea before as well too. I think it's accurate.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

My their is that this was a propaganda piece used against social organizing.

Mohawk Valley Formula propaganda.

Noam Chomsky has described the formula as the result of business owners' trend away from violent strikebreaking to a "scientific" approach based on propaganda. An essential feature of this approach is the identification of the management's interests with "Americanism," while labor activism is portrayed as the work of un-American outsiders. Workers are thus persuaded to turn against the activists and toward management to demonstrate their patriotism.

  • Don't antagonize the system.
  • The community is in harmony.
  • Everyone is paid enough, and your problems are your fault.
  • Do not discuss them, so you won't realize that the game is rigged against you. * Accept that you can do nothing about it.
  • Shut up. Get back to work.

I've never found confirmation of my theory, but I have a nagging feeling about this particular idea that can't explain. It fits the spirit of the Mohawk Valley propaganda form. It politely says, "shut up, and don't make waves".

I don't like it.

[–]Alduin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just to clarify, you think a statement encouraging people to hold civil discussion about controversial topics is really secretly telling those people to "shut up and don't make waves"?

Sorry, you're going to need more than a nagging feeling you can't explain to make that connection I think.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Alduin.

Once again you are confused, and have it completely backwards.

[–]HopeThatHalps 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Easier said than done.

[–]sad 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is interesting to think about.

[–]sodasplash 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was once on a semester in France and our class had the opportunity to sit down to dinner with a French family who had invited us into their home. They immediately began to ask us about politics and religion. The cuntiest of the feminists immediately piped up, “Us Americans don’t talk about that at the dinner table.” The French were clearly offended. I don’t know why I didn’t tell her to go fuck herself right there. #NeverAgain