Media Admits Lying About Russiagate

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[–]Site_rly_sux 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

Here's the study which wapo were reporting on

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-022-35576-9

Here's the wapo article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/01/09/russian-trolls-twitter-had-little-influence-2016-voters/

Now u/unclewillard56 you have a tough decision to make.

Either the study is real and you're correct to cite it through this video (in which case you are totally accepting it's conclusions) or the study is a fake and you were wrong to post these smug coastal elites talking about it for 20 minutes.

Because, this study, which must be true and authoritative for you to post a 20 minute video vindicating, found that the reason ruzzian trolls didn't fuck up the election too massively was this:

those who identify as “Strong Republicans” were exposed to roughly nine times as many posts from Russian foreign influence accounts than were those who identify as Democrats or Independents.

Because y'all strong republicans have a media bubble that's nine times more receptive to fake news ruz-prop that normal fucking people

Nine times

Here's what else the study found.

The study looks only at twitter and only at the Twitter accounts which have been proven to be ruzzian state employee propagandists.

The study did not look at Facebook or the propagation of Z/trumpist narratives in thedonald, boomer facebook, qanon or 8kun, saidit, telegram, or any other avenues of trumpist Z prop.

Here's the result

32 million Americans were potentially exposed to content from Internet Research Agency accounts

About one in ten Americans was poisoned by a foreign nation. That deserves article five if you ask me, but that's just me, I'm a r/NCD guy.

So that's the result of a study which was so totally true in your view that it's an admittance of a lie about ruzziagate.

What do you think u/Unclewillard56, about the fact that the evidence you cited shows that around one in ten Americans was exposed to poison by a foreign terrorist. Are you okay with that or is it a bad thing in your view. Because this is Prigozyn we're talking about, the same guy currently sipping borcht at the entry to a salt mine brimming with his leashed rapists and cutthroats

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    [–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

    Says the guy that STILL thinks "Russia collusion" and the pee pee tape are real and actually happened.

    Okay.

    In what way is the "Russia collusion" not real?

    Did Michael Flynn not take money from the Russians, and lie about it to the FBI, being convicted, and then pardoned by Trump?

    Did Jared Kushner not meet with Sergey Kislyak and Sergey Gorkov, when their organisations were under sanction, and not disclose those meetings?

    Did Wilbur Ross share shares in a shipping company with Russian oligarchs under sanctions?

    Did Anthony Scaramucci not discuss joint investments with Kirill Dmitriev, while his investment fund was under sanctions, while in criticizing US sanctions as ineffective?

    Did Jeff Sessions not meet with Sergey Kislyak multiple times before the 2016 election, and denied that he had any communications with Russia?

    Did Trump not appoint Rex Tillerson, who managed the Russia account for ExxonMobil, Secretary of State, from where he negotiated access to Rosneft's oil resources in the Russian Arctic for ExxonMobil?

    Did Michael Caputo not have contacts with Henry Greenberg about information that the Russians had on Hilary Clinton, and denied having ties to the Russian Government while working on the Trump Campaign?

    Did Paul Manafort not have repeated contacts with Russian officials in 2016, and did intercepted Russian communications not show that they Russians were interested in him to influence Trump?

    Did Rick Gates hold meetings in Moscow with the people of the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska?

    Was Carter Page not previously an investment banker in Moscow? Did he not admit to giving documents to Viktor Podobnyy, a member of a Russian Spy ring?

    Did George Papadopoulos not set up a meeting with "Russian Leadership - Including Putin" to Trump campaign officials?

    Was Roger Stone not convicted for witness tampering, obstruction and lying to impede investigations into Russian collusion?

    Did Donald Trump Jr not agree with the words "if it's what you say I love it." regarding "documents and information that would incriminate Hillary" as part of Russia's support for Mr. Trump"?

    Did Michael Cohen not receive funds from Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg through a shell company?

    What planet have you been living on?

    [–]BISH 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    In what way is the "Russia collusion" not real?

    Socks. You are a retarded piece of shit.

    [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

    Ha!

    You guys are amusing when evidence gives you cognitive dissonance.

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      [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      There are much more serious things happening right now that concern National security.

      It's a good thing that the consequences of Trump's security leaks is in the past.

      Captured, Killed or Compromised: C.I.A. Admits to Losing Dozens of Informants

      CIA sounds alarm over capture, killing of dozens of informants: report

      Joe Biden stole

      Well, by "stole" you mean "were in a safe", at a place where he used to work, but they're cooperating with authorities, unlike trump.

      troves of highly classified documents.

      And by "Troves" you mean 6 documents, unlike trump's over 300 at mar a lago alone, with a couple more found at West Palm Beach. So he was moving them around.

      Joe Biden, as VP, cannot declassify documents.

      Trump as ex-president cannot declassify documents. Even as president he has to wait until the classification on the documents themselves is changed until they can be treated as declassified.

      These are very serious crimes.

      Trumps are. Biden is not trying to hide the documents, is not lying to cover up stealing them, and has not been moving them around to evade search warrants.

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        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        Wow. What an amusing piece of creative fiction.

        Do you actually believe that, and need us to go through the documents presented to the court that signed off on the search warrant?

        Because I'd be concerned if you're that misinformed.

        [–]BISH 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

        You guys are amusing when evidence gives you cognitive dissonance.

        Says the Ukrainian Nazi supporter.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

        Ha ha ha!

        Ukrain has a jewish president, therefore they're Nazis!!!!

        OMG, you idiots are hilarious!

        Say something else! It's hysterical.

        [–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        You guys are amusing when evidence gives you cognitive dissonance.

        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        hehehe!

        I get it! You're pretending to project!

        You're saying the Jews are the Nazis, and you think other people have cognitive dissonance!

        Hahahaha!

        You're great!

        Say something else stupid!

        [–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        The only thing you can do is laugh, and pretend you don't already know it's true.

        People are waking up to the reality.

        https://saidit.net/s/debatealtright/comments/a8rb/david_cole_on_holocaust_revisionism_2018/

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          [–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          And Donald Trump is still running for President. With all that collusion, how does that happen?

          It helped a lot in 2016. Why would it not help now?

          Dude. give it up.

          Give what up exactly? Pointing out the plethora of facts?

          Is having people believe lies what you want?

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            [–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            In what way is the "Russia collusion" not real?

            Did Michael Flynn not take money from the Russians, and lie about it to the FBI, being convicted, and then pardoned by Trump?

            Did Jared Kushner not meet with Sergey Kislyak and Sergey Gorkov, when their organisations were under sanction, and not disclose those meetings?

            Did Wilbur Ross share shares in a shipping company with Russian oligarchs under sanctions?

            Did Anthony Scaramucci not discuss joint investments with Kirill Dmitriev, while his investment fund was under sanctions, while in criticizing US sanctions as ineffective?

            Did Jeff Sessions not meet with Sergey Kislyak multiple times before the 2016 election, and denied that he had any communications with Russia?

            Did Trump not appoint Rex Tillerson, who managed the Russia account for ExxonMobil, Secretary of State, from where he negotiated access to Rosneft's oil resources in the Russian Arctic for ExxonMobil?

            Did Michael Caputo not have contacts with Henry Greenberg about information that the Russians had on Hilary Clinton, and denied having ties to the Russian Government while working on the Trump Campaign?

            Did Paul Manafort not have repeated contacts with Russian officials in 2016, and did intercepted Russian communications not show that they Russians were interested in him to influence Trump?

            Did Rick Gates hold meetings in Moscow with the people of the Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska?

            Was Carter Page not previously an investment banker in Moscow? Did he not admit to giving documents to Viktor Podobnyy, a member of a Russian Spy ring?

            Did George Papadopoulos not set up a meeting with "Russian Leadership - Including Putin" to Trump campaign officials?

            Was Roger Stone not convicted for witness tampering, obstruction and lying to impede investigations into Russian collusion?

            Did Donald Trump Jr not agree with the words "if it's what you say I love it." regarding "documents and information that would incriminate Hillary" as part of Russia's support for Mr. Trump"?

            Did Michael Cohen not receive funds from Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg through a shell company?

            What planet have you been living on?

            [–]Site_rly_sux 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            If you would care to double check. You'll see that I was quoting from the study which OP's video is about. So if the study is made up....then OP is a dumbass for posting these smug coastal elites crow about it for 20 mins. Or if the study is real, then yes, the ruZ exposed 32 million Americans to poisonous propaganda....so which is it?

            [–]UncleWillard56[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            First, I'm not a Republican, and second, are you truly suggesting that mainstream media is always completely infallible and always honest, never catering to an agenda? On either side? I posted it because I thought it was interesting and it of course supports a certain narrative, but so does the idea that the election was that heavily influenced. If it were, why didn't he win in 2020? I think you've had too much blue kool-aid.

            [–]MonkeyMeatMario 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

            LYING BITCH ASS!

            [–]chottohen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

            Do not believe a goddamned word they say. It is all lies.

            [–]Site_rly_sux 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

            So wait...were they lying when the media "admitted" they were wrong? It's so confusing having to live in denial of reality but only sometimes