What about Voat do you take issue with? how about other reddit alternatives?

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[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

The canary is lapsed and Puttitout came in with some mystery donor and I'm certain the whole place will be used in the future to arrest visitors for hatethought. It's kind of echo-chamberish too. The Linux and technology subs were okay for a while. The whole Reddit/Saiddit/Voat thing has made me use sites like these much less. It's all random strangers yelling about shit for updoots. :/

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

That's interesting about the dynamic of the conversations, being echo chamberish and purely for upvotes. Isn't the saidit interesting/funny votes supposed to mitigate that? The question of what type of forum facillitates the most valuable discussion on the internet is a huge one and when I first joined reddit I was very hopeful about its prospects in regards to that question. After a while though the censorship and shadow banning really got to me and I found this place. Of course I have also gone back to using chan (quality ones) sites and IRC in the meantime. Are you saying that you have distanced yourself from all forms of reddit-like sites? What do you use otherwhise? do you think ther reddit format can be saved? It seems to me that it has a lot of promise and produces quite a bit of value despite it's issues.

[–]onemoredaydream 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I have a question for you about finding random forums (like chan sites and IRCs). How do you find out about them? Do you just lurk? Do you look through postings etc?

I've never gotten good at finding the communities I really love through chan or irc places. How do you fight against the feeling of the overwhelming realization that there are 6 billion people in the world and most of them aren't talking about anything interesting??

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's become a big hobby of mine, exploring the different modes and forums of communication on the internet.

For many years I just used all the regular shit everyone else irl did but at some point I became interested in the different forums of communication and how they influence the discussion that went on. I have both lurked and intentionally gone out and researched for "reddit alternatives" or "best chan sites" with varying results. The best finds were through lurking/communicating on a site and seeing something mentioned. I found Lainchan.org (one of my favorites) while on 4chan. I found Saidit while on reddit, I found bluelight.org on reddit also. 8chan when it was still around had some gold buried under all the shit (now 8kun).

When you find out about a new site take some time to get to know it and it's community. These are generally small sites and activity is low but not necessarily low quality. It's easy to get bored or quickly dismiss a site as too slow or low quality because you haven't spent enough time there. You have to remember you aren't looking for one site to be your totalizing internet experience, you want many small valuable sites to make up your experience. If you still crave a easy centralized feed and are too lazy to check each site individually learn how to set up RSS. Saidit for example I don't use every day, it's somewhat slow and it doesn't have all the things I'm looking for in my internet experience but I don't just drop it because of that, I would lose all the valuable things about it. Everything doesn't have to be in one place in fact that's what degrades a site and dips it into authoritarian censorship.

I got into IRC after reading about the early bulletin boards (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dddbe9OuJLU&list=PL7nj3G6Jpv2G6Gp6NvN1kUtQuW8QshBWE) in Suelette Dreyfus' "Underground". I had heard about IRC amongst the free software crowd and decided to try to get the experience I read about there. I am now thoroughly addicted to it and have met many friends through it and even made a penpal (we took our conversations to email)

There absolutely is interesting conversation going on out there you just have to sift through all the normies. Nowadays I'm trying to get into XMPP and the chatrooms in there.

[–]onemoredaydream 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is a golden reply, thanks for taking the time to type it all out.