i really wanted to like voat, but they fucked up

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[–]H3v8 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That's a good question and I think that they should try to improve their society the same way a "self hating -insert ethnicity-" should do something to improve his own society.

For example, some French might see that there's something wrong with French society, then they may try to change it or live as expats if life in France is intolerable, but what if they made it a point to improve German society instead?

Of course there are Jews who are fed up with Jewish life and decide to seek an alternative. For some, life becomes difficult, like the poet Joseph Eliya who was driven to poverty and death by the Jewish community of Ioannina when he came to the conclusion that Jews should accept Jesus, and now Jews celebrate his poetry without mentioning his end. And then there are the crypto-jews, like the Donmeh in Thessaloniki, who created the Young Turk movement that ended in the creation of modern Turkey through the genocide of Christians.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

If Jesus was the Messiah, then those who follow "The Way," are the only real Jews today. Nobody follows the way. That means Christiandom does not follow Jesus, only in sacrament and ritual, and Jews with help from Pagan Rome killed Jesus. So, if Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, then those who follow his teachings are the true Jews.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Agreed. And agreed on the "christians" who go to church and say the words, but behave like mindless animals. They aren't following Christ.

I think you and I are.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

They are anti-Christ, just as Atheists are. Jesus's teachings are far from crazy, they are filled with love and helping the needy and unfortunate.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

No, Jesus never told people to help the needy and unfortunate.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes he did.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Reference?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Jesus' teachings are a belief-based placeholder and prelude to an exact mental science.

Now that this science exists, it is easy to scientifically reconstruct his words and also identify the tampering of said words that has been performed.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

That sounds like doublespeak to me. Jesus clearly said to follow him and do good to everyone including your enemies. His words were clear.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Oh yes. It was of course masterfully and perfectly done. But like every other Messenger from the higher planes of existence, his teachings were good for an era, which stretches approximately between 5,000 years ago and 1,000 years from now.

The next iteration of the Divine Inspiration if you will, is scientific in nature because man, well - SOME FEW INDIVIDUALS - have evolved enough by now that they are ready to adopt a scientific approach to the keys of the mastery of life instead of the beliefs-based doctrine which he offered us and was so useful for a race that was not ready for the science of his teachings, but only to follow and do as he proposed.

The whole idea of our experience here on Earth has always been, since the fall from Eden, for us to evolve mentally in order to attain again a paradise-worthy state. This could only be achieved in steps obviously, and every time there are people who are ready for the next step, the Messenger appears again and offers something new. Which is why Jesus offered the jews SOMETHING NEW back then. And this is why something new is again being born into the world. This whole topic is extremely familiar to me.

But to DO GOOD UNTO THY FELLOW MAN does not necessarily mean "helping the needy". That is, by and large, the lowest and worst of Christian actions. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to catch the fish himself and he will never go hungry. Sometimes the best thing we can do for the needy is to let them experience their need thoroughly until they lift themselves out of the cesspool of the needful existence. Bolstering THAT process is a much greater deed although it might not be immediately obvious to anyone that such a thing is what an action does, in the present time.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

his teachings were good for an era

You're not a follower of Jesus if you're spouting that.

Jesus also said to sell what you have and invite the blind, needy and mamimed into your home to eat and drink.

His message was clear, to help others in need and have compassion for the sick and disabled.

...for us to evolve mentally in order to attain again a paradise-worthy state.

That sounds like Luciferianism. Sure, we can attain a state of Eden but we must first accept Jesus as our lord and Savior and follow him. We are of flesh and we are all sinners. Jesus said go and do as I and be as perfect as you can in my way as men of God.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

5,000 years is too long for simply following. We evolve. New things must happen.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're right I am not EXACTLY a follower of Jesus. But close enough. Let's just say I know the plan and am not a follower of his way in the exact sense that you mean it.