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[–]CoolTool 23 insightful - 1 fun23 insightful - 0 fun24 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I saw that thread too, and used ceddit to see what had happened. They were discussing how admins could and would give free gold/silver to threads to make them take off.

The comments were deleted by moderators.

[–]OmegaUser296 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

That is one hell of a way to prove a theory because Ceddit only shows deleted if their deleted by Mods or admins so yeah they basically proved it's right by covering it up.

[–]HearingWithoutStatic 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

they like deleting that theory, happens everytime its brought up

[–]OmegaUser296 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Probably because it's true X-Files theme plays in distance

[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (28 children)

I'll go ahead and take this wonderful opportunity provided by saidit to mention a few conspiracy theories that I believe to be true

My 1st and favorite is hidden human history. If we're supposedly evolved over millions and billions of years why is it wrong to think there were advanced societies a million years ago? I think it makes sense. and archaeological evidence is starting to come to light (big thanks to the internet! and free flowing information!) Two great youtube channels on this topic are Mystery History and vlad9tv

which brings me to #2 conspiracy theory. control of the narrative. I was thinking on my morning walk today how it is fine to be passionate about your favorite sportsball team or flavor of alcoholic poison - but don't get too excited about fixing serious problems with the structure of the modern mess we're in. pop culture does a good job of keeping millions of minds on the same page. (go blue team! lol)

also, #3 secret government programs. there is so much missing money. so many secrets. so much shady shit going on. testing. of all kinds. I'm sure there are some human-animal hybrids and other horrible wretched genetic experimental shit

The moon. #4 I believe in the moon. I think it's real and I think we landed on it. But there is a lot of weird shit. "they're parked on the far side of the crater, they're watching us" ... what?! Also, where the fuck did the moon come from! How is it exactly in the right spot so that an eclipse covers it perfectly. weird!

Anyway, I could probably go on... peace y'all!

[–]JasonCarswell 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

-#2 conspiracy theory. control of the narrative. I was thinking on my morning walk today how it is fine to be passionate about your favorite sportsball team or flavor of alcoholic poison - but don't get too excited about fixing serious problems with the structure of the modern mess we're in. pop culture does a good job of keeping millions of minds on the same page.

YES!

You are allowed to believe anything you want, but you are NOT permitted know anything with certainty.

also, #3 = plausible deniability (also Antarctica)

and, #4 - A coincidence, but one of many in our Universe. The moon used to be closer and it's not a perfect fit, though close. There is a pole star, presently.

[–]send_nasty_stuff 6 insightful - 6 fun6 insightful - 5 fun7 insightful - 6 fun -  (1 child)

You left out jq, holohoax, 911, patton/mckinley/JFK, falseflags, etc.

[–]hypernormalize 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This but unironically.

[–]HeyImSancho 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good list! On the hidden history, and controlling the narrative, I think this is the greatest theft of all; they took our knowledge, and by extension puts mankind into a perpetual darkage.

[–]wizzwizz4 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

That moon-sun apparent size thing is weird; astronomers haven't discovered another planet with moons like it. (Then again, that isn't too surprising – planets are hard enough to find without finding moons too – but it slightly reinforces how bizarre this whole thing is.)

I chalk it down to coincidence, but that's just 'cause I'm boring, and can't think of any more plausible hypotheses. But it's one of the things to watch; it's entirely possible that we discover something in the future that raises a hypothesis to be more probable than Occam's Razor suggests for the "coincidence" hypothesis.


Hidden history? Well, I'd probably make a bet with odds of 5:1 or above: I think there's about ⅙ of a chance of some isolated civilisation, of a similar advancement to our last century's civilisation in some respect (probably philosophy or maths or literature or something else theoretical), having existed. But that chance is only dropping with time, as we get more advanced and so raise the bar (90 years ago we were more "advanced" than 100 years ago, etc.), and time goes on and we leave fewer places to be searched.

I doubt very much that there's a conspiracy to hide some big globe-spanning advanced technological civilisation of the past from us, because one existing in the first place and then having disappeared without wiping out all humans is unlikely (although, Toba catastrophe theory makes this one around 5%, or 1 in 20), let alone while leaving sufficiently small amounts of a trace for its existence to not already be known to us (a hypothetical technological society accidentally self-destructing – or even deliberately, if it was anything like ours – would leave traces everywhere; even if all humans deliberately deconstructed our places of work, followed by our infrastructure, followed by our own homes, followed by suicide, we would still leave loads of traces like plastics and having used up the fossil fuels and circuit boards and stuff); assuming that the entire civilisation was green and eco-friendly and produced almost entirely bio-degradable stuff to the extent that there's almost no evidence of their existence… Given that it's humans running the scene, and that I've only got experience from the one civilisation I know about to go by, I'd generously rate it about 0.1% likely that a hypothetical civilisation would take this route (one in a thousand hypothetical civilisations would do this, I reckon). And then there would have to be evidence found by a select group of people, which, given how hard it is to find such evidence buuutttt the near-certainty that some artefacts would still exist but that we've hardly got anyone looking… 4% (1 in 25). And then that they stayed reasonably quiet about that discovery (an optimistic 5%, but only because it's conceivable that the sort of livelihood / hobby that would permit this discovery selects for people that would not write in to tabloids) but they published it somewhere (in a small scientific paper, on an obscure forum somewhere if the discovery was recent, etc.; 95%, I reckon), that conspirators (their existence a very generous 40%, because if they existed I wouldn't know) who cared about this issue (90%, because I can see why some hypothetical conspiracies wouldn't want the political instability but I can see why many conspiracies just wouldn't care at all, but I'm taking into account that there might be multiple conspiracies) would find it (given that it has to be obscure, but that the conspiracy would be monitoring known sources, but that this wouldn't be the only thing they cared about and they'd be assigning it a reasonably remote possibility because it's pretty unlikely on the face of it, but I'm giving them an insanity bonus and assuming multiple conspiracies, 10% chance of finding this… actually, scratch that; I'll give them 40% chance, because there can't be that many sources to trawl through, unless this discovery was reported in the Internet age in which case they could write a program to search for them), shut it down (this is conspiracies we're talking about; who knows how much power / influence / convincing ability they have? 80% chance of success), set up a worldwide network to monitor for new discoveries (95% chance, because we've already assumed they've got sufficient resources) and shut them down (90% success chance for shutting all of these down, because they're clearly putting more resources into this and catching it earlier).

Multiplying all of these made-up-but-reasonable-sounding probabilities together to find the total estimated chance of this scenario occurring? 5% × 0.1% × 4% × 5% × 95% × 40% × 90% × 40% × 80% × 95% × 90% = 0.0000009357%. Even assuming that I've overlooked a thousand possible ways that this could happen, this is not even worth considering the possibility of given the evidence – unless you know something you're not telling me.

[–]HeyImSancho 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Youtube has some great hidden history movies; especially on the intricate cut, and placed stone existing all around the world; our very best tech I don't think can duplicate that work as of yet. The stones are closely fit, and are often times of enormous weight.

On the flipside of 'mainstream', are people like Michael Cremo, "The forbidden Archaeologist", his entire practice is giving counter arguments to carbon dating. He covers the things that don't fit the archaeological, and geological 'approved narratives'. Another aspect of his studies, and lectures, cover other scientists such as himself; who stepped outside of the officially prescribed narrative; who also have become pariahs to the establishment.

In museums, and universities, there's a lot of stuff, they just don't put on display because it doesn't fit.

On that note, there's plenty of concern that at any magnetic pole shift, we may actually lose memory. Even with our memory, we're not that advanced individually. Most of society cannot tie their own 'proverbial shoelaces'; let alone survive should any sort of EMP, Magnetic reversal, or especially solar flare come along.

Last but not least is when you look at how we build, not much will be around in a thousand years(concrete starts deteriorating after about a 100 years), but those old stone ruins from bygone eras more than likely will still be around. That's saying something right there.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, I forgot about architecture as a category! Never mind; I've upped my "6:1" to "I already know about some". Yeah, it's truly amazing.

I don't think the magnetic pole shift will hurt our civilisation much, but we'll see!

[–]wendolynne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Every so often a religion or a nation will come along that feels obligated to destroy the works of previous civilizations. A recent example: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/1326063/After-1700-years-Buddhas-fall-to-Taliban-dynamite.html It's not hard to imagine the Christians of yore destroying any evidence which contradicted their assertion that the earth was created 6000 years ago. they certainly destroyed the histories and science maintained by pagan people of Northern Europe (i.e. the witch burnings) and the Inca in South America. It's not hard to imagine that something similar might have happened over and over in the past 200,000 years that homo sapiens has been around, according to the current theories of modern anthropologists. Objects made of metals oxidize fairly quickly - copper buckles have turned into green smears in archaeological sites only 500 years old. While hiking in the wilderness I have come across abandoned automobiles less than 100 years old that are just rust, barely holding the shape of a car. I sincerely doubt micro-circuitry is going to last for millennia without careful conservation. Plastics either.

Glaciers have tremendous power to grind stone objects into gravel, very little would still be recognizable if it was built in the path of the Ice Age glaciers.

So I think your estimation of probability is a bit low.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Plastics either.

Oh, no, plastics will unless deliberately burnt, and it'd take most of our species's resources to go out and find all the plastic and get rid of it in a lifetime. The rest of your points are good, though.

Your point about the Ice Age glaciers is especially good, too. Given this new information, I can update my estimate (after looking up the Bayesian formula and how to use it, because stupid old me hasn't memorised that yet) Bayes' Theorem is not useful here.

I've upped my 0.1% to 2%; 1 in 50 chance that the vast, vast majority of the evidence was either wiped out, buried by subduction, dismantled by other humans or otherwise rendered unreachable to us. Because your "human destruction" and "glacier" hypotheses are things that I hadn't thought of, and taking that into account makes it conceivable that such a thing might've happened in a hypothetical world (glaciers trashed loads and loads of evidence, and humans who didn't like it cleaned up the rest, so the hypothetical civilisation wouldn't have to have been so unsimilar to my expectations of how humans behave).

That makes 0.000018714%. It's still not really worth considering.

[–]wendolynne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Once you abandon the "young Earth" mindset, you can look at certain things in a different light. Egypt has some artifacts created with technology at our level or better. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7d-hjlU0O4

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've taken that into account. They didn't really require more technology; it was more about more effort going into making the things. We couldn't create those artefacts with our current level of technology quickly enough for us to not get bored.

[–]wendolynne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So, the attributes of an advanced civilization: plastic technology and a short attention span.
The word 'plastic' means changeable, by the way. Our plastic technology is approximately 100 years old. plastics deform easily - relatively low heat deforms them. grease reacts with tupperware. Hard plastics are brittle, shatter easily. If an ancient civilization had invented DVDs, and Medieval people found one, would they have any idea how to read it?

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The word 'plastic' means changeable, by the way.

Ok. Hydrocarbon-based polymers.

If an ancient civilisation had invented DVDs, and Medieval people found one, would they have any idea how to read it?

No, but they'd probably cotton on pretty quickly that it was made of something they didn't recognise. Then they'd probably give it to children to play with as a Frisbee, or just discard it, or possibly keep it as a trinket for a few years.

Where are you going with this?

[–]wendolynne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Perhaps something similar has been discovered, and we have no idea what it really is.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and we have no idea what it really is.

It's likely that someone nowadays would post it on the web, and people would share it if it was strange.

[–]sawboss 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

My 1st and favorite is hidden human history. If we're supposedly evolved over millions and billions of years why is it wrong to think there were advanced societies a million years ago? I think it makes sense. and archaeological evidence is starting to come to light (big thanks to the internet! and free flowing information!) Two great youtube channels on this topic are Mystery History and vlad9tv

Maybe. Here are the most significant events in human evolution I'm aware of. I don't see any reason they couldn't have occurred thousands of years before they eventually did.

  • Consumption of animal flesh to promote large brain development.
  • Discovery of cooking which facilitates greater nutrient extraction from meat and enables consumption of plants which would otherwise be inedible.
  • Development of agriculture removes the necessity to constantly migrate. Stationary communities with abundant food allow men to develop philosophy and science.
  • Harnessing fossil fuels and other natural resources enables construction of labor saving machines.

which brings me to #2 conspiracy theory. control of the narrative. I was thinking on my morning walk today how it is fine to be passionate about your favorite sportsball team or flavor of alcoholic poison - but don't get too excited about fixing erious problems with the structure of the modern mess we're in. pop culture does a good job of keeping millions of minds on the same page. (go blue team! lol)

Why would anyone even doubt that? The "bread and circuses" aspects of sports and brand wars are undeniable. At least, that's how I've always seen it.

also, #3 secret government programs. there is so much missing money. so many secrets. so much shady shit going on. testing. of all kinds. I'm sure there are some human-animal hybrids and other horrible wretched genetic experimental shit

I'm about 70% sure this must be true. It seems extremely likely that somewhere there are secret labs working to create super human soldiers and such. The Russians and Chinese have already cultivated extraordinary subjects though guided natural means. Now that we have access to genetic science that's the obvious next step. I welcome our beastman overlords!

Also, where the fuck did the moon come from!

https://www.britannica.com/list/where-did-the-moon-come-from

It seems we aren't sure of the answer, but we have a few guesses. My favorite theory is that it's a chunk of debris from a destroyed planet which held an orbit near enough to earth for it to get captured in our gravity.

[–]JasonCarswell 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Here's the #1 most critical human evolutionary trait: sweat glands.

Other creatures don't have them. This is also why we're less hairy. Other creatures can't regulate their temperature as well as humans. Therefor other creatures can't have over-heating brains, or run/walk/hunt long distances, or live in diverse climates.

[–]sawboss 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Good point! I missed mentioning the migration to cold northern climates. It promoted development by freezing to death those without the brain capacity to adapt. The fact that happens less often nowadays might explain some IQ decline in Western countries.

[–]HeyImSancho 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

also, #3 secret government programs. there is so much missing money. so many secrets. so much shady shit going on. testing. of all kinds. I'm sure there are some human-animal hybrids and other horrible wretched genetic experimental shit

I'm about 70% sure this must be true. It seems extremely likely that somewhere there are secret labs working to create super human soldiers and such. The Russians and Chinese have already cultivated extraordinary subjects though guided natural means. Now that we have access to genetic science that's the obvious next step. I welcome our beastman overlords!

SAP special access programs, and CAP's, are the vehicles used often times for the black budget stuff; in reading up on them, a great deal of the individual budgets go towards disinformation designed to keep the project secret. SAP's, unless changed since the last time I read up on them, are exempt from the FOIA.

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Great post! Regarding #1 have you watched the NewEarth lady's videos? I love her stuff, with the bonus of her lovely lilting voice. Even if in a moment I feel skeptical about something she proposes, I enjoy considering everything, and putting aside everything I think I know for a bit.

Plus, "pinguins" :)

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Links?

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Sorry, meant to do it and instantly forgot! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqLPTe6eEeBP10Zhu5p-0cQ

ETA: a lot of her stuff is based on the work of Anatoly Fomenko , whose ideas are intriguing food for thought. The way New Earth lady runs with it is pretty great.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

[–]FormosaOolong 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Thank you back, I do like Zoon Politicon, and hadn't seen her Fomenko stuff. She's doing a great job of keeping the ideas flowing.

[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Also check out You Are Free TV https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYuTOagsxlfgVBfOzCjxOPw/videos

A great new-to-me insightful similar resource.

[–]Stoner 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

UFO's and the grand conspiracy.

[–]PikonParadox 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

2 fascinates me. We focus on temporary things so much that if we had the same determination for solving real world problems, the place would be so much better. How can we fix this? How can we make people understand the depth of the impact they could make?

[–]HearingWithoutStatic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

biggest issue I have is the talk of putting people on Mars when we have the moon right there for testing and colonizing

[–]sawboss 7 insightful - 9 fun7 insightful - 8 fun8 insightful - 9 fun -  (2 children)

I don't have any proof, but I strongly suspect REDACTED was REDACTED by the REDACTED.

[–]Froglich 4 insightful - 7 fun4 insightful - 6 fun5 insightful - 7 fun -  (0 children)

Stay where you are.

Agent REDACTED is on his way to REDACTED you.

[–]Shill 2 insightful - 8 fun2 insightful - 7 fun3 insightful - 8 fun -  (0 children)

DATA EXPUNGED

[–]d3rr 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

Fluoride. We sit here and bitch about this and that, while consuming more and more. Two international health organizations have labeled it a neurotoxin, and too much fluoride has become a legit issue (dental fluorosis), but somehow fluoridation is still a contentious issue.

[–]Teak 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I was diagnosed at 14 (dental fluorosis), it also effects bones. My arm is cavity free however.

[–]allie 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. I use a water still to avoid as much as possible. I drink tap water for a day and my mind goes foggy. I'm even coming to believe it's related to Alzheimer's.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

only 9/11 and jfk really matter

[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

How about Oklahoma City bombing and other EASILY provable lies.

Start with the easy ones and work up.

[–]Theo_Fridall 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gabby Gifford, Sandy Hook, Boston Bombing, FLL, Pulse nightclub, (probably) Parkland....

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

No, not at all. They ALL matter.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

aliens and shit are fake

[–]Teak 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Most vaccines are ineffective and they don't test the effectiveness or antibody afterwards.

If you check out how they test for aids in africa, if they have the antibody they supposedly have aids, apparently the immune compromised have aids antibody, lul. Makes no sense. I suspect they use that logic with cancer as well, people that are diagnosed probably have the anti part, so a fecal transplant, or even better, a cure derived from the fecal bacterium would be an actual cure.

Or just start dumping stress and doing extreme sports to get adrenaline hits, works in breaking bad, or you can use adrenocrome from dead kids.

This might explain why people from India have never been vaccinated, and live in trash, but are completely fine. Indian doctors are known for fecal transplants and fecal wine, ew!

[–]XYY 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

the movie"Mars Attacks"is actually a Documentary and did really happend

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

There is a cable monster in the hollow earth that has been feeding on human data since the dawn of human time. Human time was created by this monster as well as countless other things to deprive people of their data, including weapons, ID cards, phones, radio, television, newspapers, magazines, horoscopes, coupons, sweepstakes, contests, the Internet of course, and many other things. The rulers of humanity were originally chosen to communicate with this monster, which is like an antique insect made up of wires, cables and electricity that feeds it at the same time and all wires and cables that lead from our world above the surface of the earth into the ground are leading right into the body of that monster. It has become so easy to get to this human data: Every time you click on "ok" on a website that uses "cookies", you actually sign a contract with the devil offering pieces of your soul to that monster in the hollow earth and as soon as it feeds on your data, a little piece of your soul just went to that bottom of hell straightly and becomes to literally nothing as it ultimately vanishes. That is why all the internet users get so empty inside and depressed and retarded. The rulers of this world meanwhile, once chosen to communicate with this monster, have lost all control over it and the reason for them not to react is that they are in fact just afraid themselves now, as they have unlearned how to tame the cables - so they've switched sides and now instead of keeping it tame are feeding it on purpose to see what happens next. So in the end, the naked ape will fail the test just the same way as the dinosaurs did before. And of course the jews are to blame for it, since they've infiltrated the human rulers all over the world. The jews are in fact "chosen people" from the cable monster as a reaction on the chosen human rulers that were once ment to tame that monster in the hollow earth by cutting the wires from time to time with swords and swearing. The jews were ment to infiltrate the human rulers all over the world to let them forget how to tame the cable monster in the hollow earth, so it could grow up even faster and bigger and crawling up to the surface until all living flora and fauna began to decay on it. That is why our nature is so sick and deprived. And since the cables and wires are glowing hot, the sky gets heatened more and more, causing climate changes all over the world, while the rulers of mankind act as if this all wouldn't even happen, feeding the cable monster on human data unflustered at the same time. It is outrageous and only gets kind of funny as seen as an alien from above all of this.

edit: If you hold up a mirror against another mirror, you can see the throne room of that monster in real time as a direct transmission that you can't enter. I also believe that mushrooms are the true leaders of this world, since everything living or dead can only exist because it is for some kind of mushrooms. Everything living exists in order to produce shit and corpses, because on shit and corpses there are growing fungi. The cable monster is just interested in your soul, but since the most of you don't even believe in such a thing like a soul, it is very likely to play no great role for the most of you at all, I guess. So be lifestock for the mushrooms then. Either way.

edit 2: The cable monster made me do it.

[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Gatekeeper, coinelpro, highly organized controlled opposition conspiracy

[–]DR3DDL0CC 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I personally believe that the Moon Landing is fake.

[–]Theo_Fridall 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why? And I ask because I am a huge skeptic of everything, but I actually believe that happened.

Prove me wrong?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

top proof is they "lost" origiunal tapes and "forgot" the technology on how to do it, although as an aerospace engineer I understand the science behind it and it is possible that we went and the videos do look like what it would look like, the flag's not really waving and the stars wouldn't show because it was daylight on the moon and the sky was just black because of the lack of atmosphere, the astronauts could have jumped higher if they wanted but that would be dangerous to possibly damage their suits.

[–]Theo_Fridall 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

'evidence' maybe, but that is hardly 'proof'.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

never play semantics

[–]Theo_Fridall 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

it's not semantics. there is a world of difference between evidence and proof.

[–]hypernormalize 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The thing that tipped me over the edge was the "live" phone call with the Astronauts on the moon and Richard Nixon. Which is impossible, as there is an eight minute delay.

There is a lot more, but that really did it for me.

[–]Theo_Fridall 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I think you are mistaken: Radio waves travel at the speed of light. Light takes 8 minutes to travel from the Sun to the earth (~93,000,000 miles / 186,200 miles per second / 60 seconds per minute = 8.3 minutes).

A radio signal from the moon would take about 1.3 seconds (~250,000 miles / 186,200 miles per second).

[–]allie 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe the Soviets would have known and told the world. But I do believe they mixed stills from training etc with the real pictures.

[–]allie 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

911Truth. It's very disappointing that it's not the first thing mentioned.

After that the cover-up of George W. Bush's complicity.

[–]HalfOfAKebab 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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