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[–]Anonfamous 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

That's why I'm here. But so far, I'm seeing a lot of what I'd normally consider wild conspiracy theories. But I'ma hold on and give it a chance.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Would you be interested in a demonstrable conspiracy theory?

[–]Anonfamous 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Sure why not. I'm mean I have no issue with spending a few hours going down some rabbit hole. But I guess I'm just conditioned for there being a specific place or "sub," for that and not predominantly on the front page. It's like, when I wanna see porn I'll go to where the porn is but if I'm not in the mood I don't want to be constantly bombarded. That being said.

What ya got? You have my attention.

[–]FormosaOolong 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

But I guess I'm just conditioned for there being a specific place or "sub," for that and not predominantly on the front page.

There is an account with many sockpuppets that keeps spamming the front page with garbage "conspiracy" clickbait. A solution is underway, but it's tricky when a site is doing its darndest not to excercise censorship.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

First, a question.

Do you think that it would be possible for a human to successfully fly a missile using manual controls, and successfully and safely land this missile.

Crucially, without the aid of computer guidance (accelerometers, committee aided autocorrections, GPS, etc.).

Would it be possible for a human to accomplish this feat using 100% human skills???

[–]Anonfamous 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Wait. I have more questions. Are using "missle," as a metaphor in describing a fighter jet? Or are we talking about a missle specifically designed for a single kamakazi (spelling) pilot? Or are we talking about some form of intercontinental ballistic missle that some nut job retrofitted with a steering wheel and is now attempting to fly it?

I could say definitely yes to the first. Probable to the second. And highly unlikely to the third.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm asking if you believe that a human could fly a wingless missile, similar to an ICBM and land it safely. Steering wheel, etc. The controls could be electronic, and/or mechanical (hydraulic, gear, transmission, etc.).

No guidance, sensory response, or aided steering. No wings, no parachute.

Guided soley by human thruster control.

[–]Anonfamous 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Most definitely not. Missle systems are hard to get right even with the newest technology and the brightest minds. I'm still curious where you're going with this. ?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I agree with you completely.

The logical conclusion to this line of questioning, is that we never landed on the moon on any of the 6 Apollo "Moon" Missions".

It's an absolutely impossible feat. 6/6 flawless landings, in 3 short years. Couldn't ever happen.

Edit: There's mountains of indisputable evidence. But this thought experiment is all that is required, if we're honest in our assessment.

Edit 2:. The astronauts would not have had:.

  • Video cameras to see the landing sight, or any way to see through the thrusters that showed their descent.
  • A laser range finder to gage distance to land even if they could see
  • Any depth perception, even if they had a screen
  • Any atmosphere to use as an aligning force for orientation (fins, wings, parachutes, etc.) So once they start rotating (yaw, pitch, roll) is over and they'll never regain stability.

Space X crashed 1/3 rockets last year, and they're top of the line 2018 tech. Imagine 1969 tech.
Not possible.

Landing is the hardest part of flight.

[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What about all the scientists monitoring the rocket though? And the long time frame allowing them to align it perfectly? I'm sure a human could accurately launch a missile and hit it accurately with enough math. They had very basic computers aboard the ship too. Of course one person couldn't do this, at least not easily; that is why they have massive teams for these.

I think a better example would be things like the NSA, which are verified conspiracy.

There is a reflector on the moon for proof as well, if I remember correctly.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What about all the scientists monitoring the rocket though?

First people fooled.

And the long time frame allowing them to align it perfectly? I'm sure a human could accurately launch a missile and hit it accurately with enough math. They had very basic computers aboard the ship too. Of course one person couldn't do this, at least not easily; that is why they have massive teams for these.

Doesn't matter how many people are in the team. There's only one pilot. They could never safely land it. There's no reason to make excuses for them.

I think a better example would be things like the NSA, which are verified conspiracy.

The Apollo mission is a better example. It's staring us in the face, but many cannot accept it. You admitted it with the:

Of course one person couldn't do this.

There is a reflector on the moon for proof as well, if I remember correctly.

Could be there. If so, it wasn't put there by astronauts in the 70's. Realisticly, it probably isn't there. Enough people believe the hoax. Why would they bother?

It's better to rip this band-aid off early. You'll be glad you did later...