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[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

This is why it's important to get a correct diagnosis before starting HRT.

Which is why people get prescribed puberty blockers as an interim solution: A solution not without its side-effects, but at least it keeps people alive.

They're getting it right in the vast majority of cases though. The proportion of people that want to de-transition is in the vicinity of 1%, and it looks to me like it's broadly improving with time.

[–]jet199 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Puberty blockers are not an interim solution. They stop the brain maturing, drop IQ and 99% of those who are given puberty blockers go on to cross sex hormones (compared 5-15% if blockers aren't used). It's not just the body which changes during puberty, the brain aslo matures. They stop the brain maturing so a person is trapped with a child like brain and so can't make adult decisions.

https://www.hormonesmatter.com/lupron-precocious-puberty-decades-regulatory-silence/

[–]Musky[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

so a person is trapped with a child like brain and so can't make adult decisions.

I feel like that anyways sometimes. Wanna come hide from the world with me in my pillow fort?

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

99% of those who are given puberty blockers go on to cross sex hormones

So it's an interim solution?

They stop the brain maturing,

What's your source for that?

What do you mean by "brain maturing"? Is the capacity to learn quickly extended? Or do you get adults throwing temper tantrums like Donald Trump?

drop IQ

Do you have a source for this for transgender patients?

I'm aware of the paper you link to for precocious puberty, but transgender patients would be taking them at a later stage of their development, and I'm not aware that there's a consensus on any iq drop in that context.

and 99% of those who are given puberty blockers go on to cross sex hormones (compared 5-15% if blockers aren't used).

It'd be interesting to read that paper too. It seems implausible that they're the same group. To be prescribed puberty blockers, you need to show significant gender dysphoria. To not be prescribed puberty blockers, all you need to be is normal.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I wouldn't call my brain maturation an improvement. In fact that's the worst part of gender dysphoria, because it prevents me from even thinking and feeling like myself. In any case I think kids are actually a lot smarter than adults if they only had a chance to grow. Age seems to correlate with NPCness (not that it isn't bad enough from the start). If the IQ thing were actually true then people with androgen insensitivity syndrome would all be mentally handicapped.