Someone please help me understand my trans child. (Freespeech discussion thread)

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[–]Canbot[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

About two years ago, they went through a series of "coming outs." First lesbian, then bi, then pan, then male, then non-binary, then female, now male again. I'm sure I missed a few, but it's been a roller coaster. They tasted the whole rainbow.

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Each time they came out, it was this big deal. They were shaky and afraid, because I'm religious and they expected a big blowup. But while I'm religious, I apply my religion to myself not to others. I've taught them what I believe, but made space for them to disagree. I think they were disappointed it wasn't more dramatic, which is why the coming outs kept coming.

This mom seems to understand a bit of what is happening but is terrified to say it. The daughter is obviously rebelling. This would have been a slutty teenager doing drugs and sneaking out to parties 20 years ago. Now because of trans propaganda the young girls are turning to gender politics to find an identity and rebel against thier parents. The results in many cases is going to be irreversible damage and a lifetime of regret.

[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Well also a lot of kids just don't go out now. That culture is out there to scoop them up.

Even when girls meet up with their friends after school now they just all sit together looking at their phones.

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

The top comment there is pretty based:

Parent of a trans child here.

Your child needs therapy. Not because they're crazy or something is wrong that needs fixing, but because they are going through something that they need to talk through and they don't know how. A professional will help them work through it. My child transitioned and therapy helped him solidify his identity. On the other hand a friend of mine had a child who came out as trans but after a year of therapy realized she wasn't trans, it was another issue they were working through that just manifested in a way they didn't understand. Whatever your child is going through, a therapist will help them get it sorted.

Agree with canbot, that this probably isn't a strictly Trans issue, but its worse that most adolescent problems.

A therapist would get to a handle on that. There's no chance a case like this would get "irreversible damage and a lifetime of regret" based on constantly changing gender identity.

Through all of this, they have also been dealing with serious issues like eating disorders, self harm, abuse recovery, compulsive lying, etc.

Abuse recovery is, I suspect, the key.

[–]Canbot[S] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

A therapist would get to a handle on that. There's no chance a case like this would get "irreversible damage and a lifetime of regret" based on constantly changing gender identity.

Therapists are no longer unbiased. They are forced to push "affirmation". In other words they push the children further into the delusion. It is just like telling a person who hears voices that the voices are real. The only way these kids can escape from that is if they somehow figure it all out in thier own and then fight the therapist to get out.

Hormone blockers are irreversible. Trans surgeries are irreversible. Psychological damage can be irreversible.

Abuse recovery is, I suspect, the key.

Kids rebel because they go through a lot of changes really fast and don't have a fully developed brain to deal with it. It is not a sign of abuse. A lot of girls feel a lot of shame when thier breasts start to come in. They are horrified of having to deal with their menstrual cycle. Self harm in girls is very common. They just want to run and hide from these things that cause them unbearable anxiety. Becoming trans gives them that option. But it's a trap that will ruin thier lives.

[–]notafed 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Therapists are no longer unbiased. They are forced to push "affirmation".

Where I live, they can lose their license if they do anything other than "affirm". And they'll probably get hauled before a "human rights tribunal" aka "star chamber".

[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Self harm is very common in girls with BPD, not in all girls.

The same with eating disorders and and compulsive lying.

Abuse is often the trigger for BPD.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

In other words they push the children further into the delusion.

That's not in any of the guidance policy documents I've read about it. My perception is that they're careful about isolating a case like this where the gender identity is not consistent.

Can you show me a policy document that clarifies that this is actually happening?

Kids rebel because they go through a lot of changes really fast and don't have a fully developed brain to deal with it. It is not a sign of abuse.

This particular kid is going through abuse recovery.

[–]Canbot[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not in any of the guidance policy documents I've read about it.

Affirmation isn't in any of the policy documents? I find that hard to believe. Perhaps you can post a link to those official policy documents and we can all have a look and not just take your word on it.

[–]notafed 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

There's a few sane posters on there. Do them a favour and upvote them so they get at least some visibility.

[–]Canbot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The votes don't matter.