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[–][deleted] 12 insightful - 6 fun12 insightful - 5 fun13 insightful - 6 fun -  (8 children)

You mean men don't respect you more when you dress like a slut and other men are paying for your body? Big shock. Lol

[–]jet199[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

No other men, that one guy.

[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

There were definitely other men too. And no one respects someone they are paying to take thier clothes off. You are paying to use someone.

[–]weavilsatemyface 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

And no one respects someone they are paying to take thier clothes off.

Speak for yourself. I'm happy to pay money for things that make me happy. Don't care if its good food and drink, good entertainment, a nice holiday, a good car, or pretty women. Sure, I would love it if people gave me things for free, but paying is better than theft, or going without.

You are paying to use someone.

Um, yes? When I hire a plumber to do repairs, I'm paying to use someone. When I go to a restaurant, I'm paying to use the waiters and chef. When I catch a taxi or Uber, I pay to use somebody to drive me around. When I go to the movies, I'm paying to use somebody to entertain me.

You got a problem with the service industry in general, or is it just naked women that scare you because they make strange things happen to your peepee?

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Um, yes? When I hire a plumber to do repairs, I'm paying to use someone. When I go to a restaurant, I'm paying to use the waiters and chef. When I catch a taxi or Uber, I pay to use somebody to drive me around. When I go to the movies, I'm paying to use somebody to entertain me

There's a key difference in all those cases. The plumber, the actress, etc. are using their skill and diligence to provide you with a service. In their own way, they are each bringing order or beauty to our chaotic universe.

Spreading your legs for some lonely, unfortunate loser does not do this. It's animalistic and exploitative shit that billions of lesser animals incapable of introspection are also doing at any given moment.

The OnlyFans chick is a lizard eating a fly. We don't respect that.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The plumber, the actress, etc. are using their skill and diligence to provide you with a service.

Just as sex workers do.

You get what you pay for. If you pay $2 to some poor unfortunate crack whore for a quickie in an alley, you're not going to get the same attention to detail and customer service you get from a $500 an hour escort.

Like in any profession, sex workers vary in their skill, enthusiasm and experience. If all you are getting is somebody who lies there like a dead fish with her legs open, then you should save your money and buy a fleshlight.

We don't respect that.

Yeah, and that's why you won't get any. You won't pay for it, and you don't respect it, and that's why you won't get it for free either.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, wow! Four paragraphs of bland Reddit / Millennial orthodoxy! How welcome and insightful!

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Both guys in the story actually.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Speak for yourself, prude. I have no problem with good looking women who dress sexy.

[–]Dragonerne 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

She got preferential treatment because she was a woman. She almost got the job despite having poor coding skills.

Too bad she ruined her female privilege by having an OnlyFans (another example of female privilege)

[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Only fans is also female privilege. She chose the easy path over the long term path. She is still making easy money. Far easier than any guy could.

[–]Dragonerne 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Just remember jews are the reason why society has gotten so bad and why it is going to get worse.

[–]Alienhunter 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

Jews aren't real they're just a fake boogyman the Catholics thought up at the council of Nicene to deflect attention away from their own pedophile cabal.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

true

[–]weavilsatemyface 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

She almost got the job despite having poor coding skills.

The arsehole dick who dobbed her in says that she had poor coding skills. And if you believe that, you'll believe that Epstein killed himself and that the vaccines are safe and effective.

[–]Airbus320 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Ok

[–]StillLessons 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Yet another place where liberal orthodoxy is fighting the tide. For 60 years now, the official message has been "sex work is okay. It's just another way of expressing ourselves." This construct is in contrast to how most societies and individuals have treated sexual leniency for thousands of years. So all those thousands of years of society limiting and "repressing" extreme sexual leniency must be wrong, because now we're so enlightened?

OR perhaps those societies were right, and for the past 60 years, our own has gotten badly off track.

The point is that for all the explicit and heavy-handed messaging to the contrary from our "societal influencers" (=self absorbed elite), most people still see a person trading sex for money as making an unacceptable equivalence. Our individual instinct (the motivation of the two males in this exchange) is usually to treat sluts as sluts, not to celebrate them. There are some instincts which are powerful enough to resist any quantity of official messaging.

Why? Because societies that break this set of rules fall apart (look at the end of the Roman empire).

We are witnessing a massive die-off of those who were the population of "western civilization" because we didn't realize that sexual mores are there for a reason. You can't just let "everyone be okay" without consequences. The current set of consequences is explicit lack of population replacement (people aren't having kids and forming families), exacerbated now by even more explicit literal castration and sexual mutilation (trans movement). We're in an ugly phase in our current society. This is not the direction societies move during their growth. They move this way as they collapse.

[–]Canbot 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

exacerbated now by even more explicit literal castration and sexual mutilation (trans movement).

The trans "movement" is not an exacerbation, it is the natural progression. If you look at who is bringing thier children to the tranny drag shows (literally burlesque) it is mostly single mothers and homosexuals. The destruction of the nuclear family leads directly to women pushing thier children into degeneracy.

And this will lead to pedophilia. Not that it doesn't exist now, but there will be an explosion of pedophilia as today's children are sexualized and groomed into being pedophiles. When they are surrounded by other children acting out sexual acts as thier brains develop and thier sexuality is molded they will fill that mold and be sexually stimulated by children.

[–]chadwickofwv 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

My only argument is that the paedo explosion already happened, but it is getting worse.

[–]StillLessons 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I weep for that generation. :(

[–]weavilsatemyface 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

This construct is in contrast to how most societies and individuals have treated sexual leniency for thousands of years.

When you say "most", you actually mean "a small minority". Ancient Rome was full of pornography, including porn mosaics in full public view. Ancient Indians wrote the karma sutra. Most civilizations and societies have treated the phallus (erect dick) as almost holy. The first thing that human beings made when they discovered how to make pottery was big tittied, wide-hipped, thicc naked women.

Sexual attitudes are dominated by fashion, and like fashion, they come and go. Periods of sexual freedom are followed by periods of sexual repression, when the dried-up cobweb-cunted old women and limp-dicked old-men and gammas who couldn't score a root in a brothel with a fistful of fifties manage to indoctrinate the younger generation about how their sexual desires are harmful and about how awful it is to be getting plentiful sex. "I'm not getting any, so nobody else should either."

And let's not forget the perverts (rich old men and priests) who are all about "nobody else should get any, so I'll have my pick of virgins to use and abuse".

So all those thousands of years of society limiting and "repressing" extreme sexual leniency must be wrong, because now we're so enlightened?

Pretty much.

I know how shocking it might be to realize that those same primitive and savage societies that mutilate girls and women to stop them having sexual pleasure, and that think that all deaths are caused by witchcraft, that raping babies will cure disease, that widow-burning is sacred, that crippling your girl babies by breaking their toes and binding them into a ball makes them "beautiful", and that god will send you to burn in hell forever if a man sees your face might be wrong about sex too.

[–]StillLessons 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I admit, you've got me thinking. Your response to the first clip makes a good point. The amount of erotic statuary and painting throughout the historical record of countless societies cannot be ignored. That begs the question, however, of whether these statues were referring to women being sluts or to men coercing/forcing women into roles in patriarchal societies? You're right. The concept of societies "repressing" sexuality looks absurd in the face of this record. I concede your point.

As to your response suggesting we are enlightened relative to these earlier societies, however, I still reject this. Fine, so there was a lot of insane sex going on in those past societies just like now. Having just convinced me of that, you have a contradiction claiming that today's similar sexual insanity is somehow more enlightened than that of earlier groups. The details may have changed, but the basic insanity is the same in both cases.

Putting the two together brings us around to "nothing new under the sun". Sexual insanity is part of the human condition, distracting us from the more useful and mundane activities of actually making sure the population is protected, clothed, and fed. Moving back into our own culture, in the earlier years of the US (the puritan phase), the sexual repression is nicely correlated with a hell of a productive period in our history. Since WWII (maybe the 20s? pick your date...), the changing of the standard woman's role (with the usual exception of prostitution) from resisting that kind of sexual debauchery to celebrating it alongside the horny guys hasn't advanced our society one millimeter, and it can be argued it's a central piece of the disintegration we are witnessing.

Overall, thanks for the comment. It's nice to have a person absolutely disagree with me in a way that makes me re-think my original post so thoroughly. I appreciate it. Cheers.

[–]weavilsatemyface 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sexual insanity is part of the human condition, distracting us from the more useful and mundane activities

Oh please. The desire to be attract potential mates is one of the strongest drivers in humans to groom themselves and create wealth and success. Its only a little bit of an exaggeration to say that people built civilization so they had somewhere comfortable to shag.

in the earlier years of the US (the puritan phase), the sexual repression is nicely correlated with a hell of a productive period in our history.

That's pretty much the opposite of what happened. The most productive periods in US history were also the least repressive.

the changing of the standard woman's role

The "standard woman's role" for pretty much all of history, from ancient Greece to medieval Europe, was that pretty much everyone agreed women and men were equally lustful, or even that women were more lustful than men. It wasn't until the 18th and 19th century did the idea of women not wanting sex became mainstream, and then in the Victorian and post-Victorian early 20th century it went viral.

so there was a lot of insane sex going on in those past societies just like now. Having just convinced me of that, you have a contradiction claiming that today's similar sexual insanity is somehow more enlightened than that of earlier groups. ... Sexual insanity is part of the human condition ... sexual debauchery ... [emphasis added]

Jeez mate, you sound like me at 18 when I was railing against the sluts who were spreading their legs for every Tom Dick and Harry ("but not me..."). Pure, 100% sour grapes. Well, that and a bit of being terrified of rejection.

Take it from me, you need to get laid. If you can't pull some nice girl who'll let you pork her, save your paper round money and hire a professional. You'll be a lot more relaxed about other people having sex.

Yes yes yes, I know, we all want a loving romantic relationship with some gorgeous women who is a wild cat in bed and absolutely adores us. And I want a four course banquet made by Alain Ducasse, but I'll settle for a toasted cheese sanga when I'm hungry. There's no shame in it.

There's a lot of insanity in the 2022, but people fucking each other is not part of it.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Take it from me, you need to get laid. If you can't pull some nice girl who'll let you pork her, save your paper round money and hire a professional. You'll be a lot more relaxed about other people having sex.

You've got the wrong guy. I'm happily married to a hot female. Our sex life is great.

Earlier in my life, I was miserable and I hired professionals. It's precisely the difference between that experience and my current marriage that shapes the perspective you have misperceived. I now know from experience what a healthy sexual world can look like and I want to encourage that for all of us. I look around and I see a lot of very unhappy people. Simultaneously I see hookup culture being promoted and now being the norm for sexual activity for the young generation. Free sex doesn't seem to be leading to happiness. It looks to me to be the opposite.

Interestingly, when I was in my younger professional-hiring phase, I enthusiastically defended precisely the argument you are making. I've argued before what you are arguing here. I was extremely unhappy during that phase of my life. Maybe that's just me. I hope so. I hope you are happy living however you want to live. Perhaps my experience is unusual. I sometimes think maybe I'm a strange form of autistic, with a range of unusual emotional responses. But then I look at the advice given by contemplative men and women throughout history, and they all offer the same advice I am offering here.

It's not that I find there to be some moral "Go to Heaven" to be enforced. I don't believe in that model at all. I just don't think the sexual free-for-all actually makes people happy. I think it makes us precisely the opposite. So I recommend the opposite of the direction our society is leaning. Do people seem sexually happy and satisfied to you? Why do you think there is a trans movement? Because the system as it has developed over the past 50 years has people - men and women both - entirely fucked up at this point. I want that to stop, for all of our sakes.

[–]agent_pecan 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good. Do what you want in private but keep it private.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 5 fun5 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 5 fun -  (1 child)

Sex work turned out okay for Kamala Harris.

[–]StillLessons 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

lol. 10 points for dry delivery!

[–]iamonlyoneman 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's a failure of parenting, but also of personal judgment. Yes honey, this is what you get. Be a whore or be respectable, choose only one.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

You simp-athize with this harlot, OP?

[–]weavilsatemyface 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You simp-athize with this harlot, OP?

Found the gamma or delta. When you make it all the way up to beta, then your opinion might be worth something.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I am the Alpha and the Omegle.

[–]TaseAFeminist4Jesus 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

LOL yeah, white-knighting for some skank on Reddit seems reeeally "alpha." OP is probably captain of his school's SportsBallTeam and totally gets a lot of pussy.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it does

[–]Bonn1770 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Based thot destroyer

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

u/weavilsatemyface is hurt tho, he cant coom anymore 🤢

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This is a win u/mazurro

[–]Mazurro 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I'd report it as it damages company image

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Where did he claim to support her? That's an awfully wild claim there.

[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It was at the very end.

[–]weavilsatemyface 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

"I'm only thinking about the company's image" -- translation: I'm a corporate whore.

"she's pretty horrible at coding" -- translation: her code is better than mine.

"I remembered that I followed her on social media ... I even subscribed to her OnlyFans" -- translation: I'm stalking her.

"those activities don't align with the companies goals" -- translation: the company is against people having sex or thinking about sex.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

😮

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm.

The individual making the accusation of this woman having an OnlyFans is a student themself, and may still be far from being an expert in coding. They also have a vested interest in supporting the friend getting the job, thus making the story, and the accusation dubious at best. As they are leaving the role and I suspect not actually set to return (they hired as a student, once graduating they would hire somewhere better), and didn't hire their friend, had nothing to lose in lying.

There is no evidence that a woman was hired because she had a vagina, the friend may have been a complete spud (see Trainspotting) thinking they were being handed a position.

There is a feminine undertone here, reputation destruction, jealousy in another woman gaining a position they had, etc. Aside from not believing this story is true, I don't believe this would impact their job. It's coding, not hospitality. Probably a hit piece to make men look like shitbags. Who gives a fuck what some chick does on OnlyFans, it's incel creeps who pay for it I'd be more worried about.