I got banned from a sub for posting *nuance* on the transgender issue. Nuance, and expressing opinions that go beyond the simple tribal ones, is apparently as bad to reddit mods and admins as going whole hog with the wrong tribe is.

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Yeah. Absolutely.

What's actually wrong with killing humans for nonsense drawer-prejudices because your brain is too small to manage more drawers ?

Supposedly even if most of this drawers don't exclusively contain bullshit, like it is typical for fascists.

What the fuck could get or be wrong about that ?

Maybe even train some algorithms to automatize this task. What could go wrong anyways ?

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Drawers? Is this some new communist codeword I haven't heard of yet?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

You got a kitchen with a drawer containing your cutlery or your mom has at least. Thats the kind of drawer i'm talking about.

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Assume I am mentally deficient, in fact I'm sure you would love to do so.

Please can you tell me your drawer-based philosophy?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Imagine this: You put different human beings in different drawers in different rows and columns of a closet. Just to save space in your memory and time in your brain-processing power. Because the process gets more efficient for the brain, so to say.

Everyone of those drawers has labels on it like: Gay, black, white, TERF, nerd, geek, woman, lesbian, teacher, boss, possibly fuckable female friends, asshole male friends, non-asshole male friends, racist, liberal, democrat and so on.

The bullshit you also put this drawers with these labels are your own prejudices you assume about these people that you put into this specific drawers. Some of these prejudices aren't even actually your own, because the were "printed" into by your upbringing or your social context. You just copied them from somewhere or someone, without sometimes even being able to question them. Maybe you were to young to even try to do this, when they were imprinted in your "core" so to say.

Assumptions like : All black people are primates. All lesbians offend me, e.g. . But you can't really know, if those prejudices actually true because you don't actually know all these people that you put in their corresponding drawer. That is why these are prejudices.

You judge something, before you actually took the time to actually get to know it.

Your memory also somewhere has hidden sort of an asshole-drawer, where most of the humans people put all other humans beings into that don't seem to fit in any other or any combination of other drawers. So you judge them, just because they don't fit into your drawer system in your memory.

The perverse thing about this, you tend start to believe your own system more and more the more the more you use it, rather than changing it, because it works "finely" enough, so to say and so you tend get lazy in this aspect of actually working on your own self.

That is the problem with building new drawers, i meant. So you start to make wrong assumptions about the people because of the drawer you put them into.

Does this makes at least some sense for you ?

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

If you just stick to the truth you don't need to compartmentalize bigotry, you just simply accept that the wages of sin are death.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I understand this concept. But you actually only can see your version of the truth. There is no objective truth, so to say.

That is why progressive geeks like us need other people to be able to smell each others bullshit.

[–]Evola 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I disagree with your fundamentals. Progressivism is just a roundabout way to make excuses for bad behaviour by rationalising evil.

Denying objective truth is also anti scientific because it deconstructs logic to simple feelings and turns science itself into a twisted religion.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I believe the truth itself changes like life itself changes every unit of time. You never see the same river twice like, so to say. And this in a bidirectional sense, implying that the river itself changes, like you change yourself, if you feel inclined to spend time on trying to sense what actually changed.

Of course i'm on the side of it being an coercive objective of big enough minds, so to say, to keep steadily searching for it.

But like there is no spoon, aether or constant in life itself there also is no absolute "objectivity", "truth", "perfection" or "beauty" e.g. . These are non-words for me, so to say. We only can give our best effort to converge to these non-words as best as we can.

Mathematics itself with its "pureness" even proves its own limits conclusive. And it is the best thing i know so far to even be able to dive in these paradox gaps in reality.

It is not a belief for me. For me these are "almost" facts. (Without diving to deep into the voids that are unlimited at the same time)

[–]Evola 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are talking about matter changing but the fundamental laws of nature remain the same.

Truth is expressed through matter just as created objects have the truth of the maker who makes it expressing it into the real world but matter by itself does not express the laws of nature it's the other way around.

Gravity holds all objects down and objects have the property of gravity but the matter on it's own can't choose not to have gravity. Matter is dead and it's the laws of nature that dictate their flow.