Banned for criticising Zelensky.

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[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No - he was banned because he wrote that: "the missile that unleashed its payload of cluster bombs into the civilians at the Kramatorsk train station belonged to the Ukranian military." This is false, and it resembles a form of disinformation spread by the Russian Government. Spreading disinformation like this (which Putin is famous for in recent weeks) helps Russia justify its attacks, which are destroying the lives of millions of Ukrainians, though Russia was not provoked. Statements like this support the genocide of Ukrainians. raven9's approaches in this case help with an information war that's run by war criminals. By spreading this disinformation, raven9 has associated himself with war criminals, and has thus helped with the continuation of war crimes. Reddit's rules against hate crimes prohibit users like raven9 from helping with the continuation of war crimes. raven9 is an enemy of all those who support Ukraine.

[–]raven9[S] 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

The missile is already proven to belong to the Ukranian military. You can look here, at this video. I set the link to begin at the part where they examine the tail section of a similar missile that was fired by Ukranian military in 2015.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8j4Ijs7_FQ&t=1m47s

You can clearly see the missile type is 9M79-1 and its unique serial number is Ш 91565

Now look at the tail section of the missile from the train station at Kramatorsk.

https://t.me/rustroyka1945/741

You see the missile type is the same 9M79-1 and it's unique serial number is Ш 91579.

So we have the serial numbers of the two missiles both fired in Ukraine 7 years apart.

9M79-1 Ш 91565

9M79-1 Ш 91579

Their numbers are so close because they are both from the same batch of missiles. We know the one fired in 2015 belongs to the Ukraine military and if that one does, they both do.

So you see you are supporting a regime that has been murdering civilians for propaganda purposes. You should look at the videos Patrick Lancaster has been filming in Ukraine he talks to random civilians in war zone. They all tell similar stories the Ukrainian military shoots at them and destroys their homes. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbjTWVaRx6jMN5ZYgbqe2_w

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes - we do know of the Russian propaganda - we can find that. It's false. Notice how hard you're trying to justify the Russian genocide of Ukrainians. Those were obviously Russian-made missiles, and there is absolutely no argument that Ukraine would genocide its own people, whereas Russia has a consistent track record of genocide for decades. You must use common sense, coupled with the obvious evidence on the ground, and the identification of those missiles, and Russia's traditional strategies, and the knowledge that your pro-Russian sources are obviously telling lies. You cannot corroborate or logically argue anything you've provided here. I appreciate your efforts to offer the evidence, but this is not factual. This kind of misinformation and disinformation is of course banned on larger websites. Please do not support genocide. Here is what is known thus far:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/04/09/missile-writing-kramatorsk-train-station-ukraine-russia/

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-61036740

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/new-atlanticist/russian-war-report-russia-makes-false-claims-while-blaming-ukraine-for-kramatorsk-railway-station-attack/

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220410-live-russian-rockets-destroy-ukraine-s-dnipro-airport

https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3454375-enemy-opens-fire-on-train-station-in-eastern-ukraine-last-night.html

https://www.gzeromedia.com/what-we-re-watching-russia-s-consolidation-in-eastern-ukraine-shanghai-s-grueling-lockdown

[–]raven9[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

You find that its false because you do not have knowledge of the facts. It has nothing to do with Russian propaganda. The missile fired in 2015 was being examined in Ukraine by Ukrainian people in Alchevsk. The pictures of the one from the Kramatorsk train station are screen captured from footage filmed by an Italian news crew.

Obviously they were originally Russian made. They are soviet era SS-21s. They were deployed in Ukraine when they were part of the USSR so they had many of them.

This 90 second video illustrates the point very well https://www.bitchute.com/video/oUZT9dWtadiG/

Aside from that it is ludicrous that you would claim Ukraine does not kill their own people. What do you think they have been doing for the last 8 years? Why do you think the video of that missile was there in 2015? The Ukraine military has an 8 year long catalogue of atrocity against the people of the Donbass region and right now they are just continuing the same thing so western media trolls can blame Russia for it.