I’m a liberal but...I’m not attracted to liberal men. "But no matter how much I try to tell myself to stop only viewing masculine men as potential dating/sex partners, I hit a mental block and I get hit with this huge wave of discomfort at the thought of being with a man who’s feminine."

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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (10 children)

society expects people to behave in certain ways according to whether they have a penis or a vagina, even if the behaviors are entirely unrelated, but some people behave differently than the expectation.

I behave differently than the expectation. I actually recently got kicked off my discord Cripplingalcoholism server for having a relationship that isn't gender normative. Not even like I'm drastically bending social norms, my wife just makes more money than I do. That still invokes feelings of disgust. Also goes back to the sex thing. Alpha males who are old (bad providers) would be challenged.

Anyways, my point is that it doesn't mean I see myself as a woman just because I'm an atypical man.

I ain't sure how certain behaviors became associated with genitals, such as wearing make-up and shaving your legs, but others make more sense: women have kids, so naturally they take care of them, and that leaves men with the responsibility to work.

I really love the word ain't. Growing up my teachers liked to say "ain't ain't a word," but it's a nice southern touch if you ask me.

Gillette made shaving your legs a thing to sell razor blades. Seriously.

Make up is just about attracting a mate, lots of animals do it too.

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I actually recently got kicked off my discord Cripplingalcoholism server for having a relationship that isn't gender normative. Not even like I'm drastically bending social norms, my wife just makes more money than I do. That still invokes feelings of disgust.

Yeah, it's kind of similar to that. People tend to expect humans with penises to make more money than humans with vaginas.

I really love the word ain't.

Ain't you from Texas?

Growing up my teachers liked to say "ain't ain't a word,"

That's Yankee imperialism for ya. Empires always impose their language upon their colonies in order to strip the natives of their identity — that's what the federal school system was designed to do. The only way to save the South is to restore our tenth amendment right to educate our kids.

but it's a nice southern touch if you ask me.

It's not simply a "southern touch", it's a protest against imperialism! Honestly, if I had to choose one word to symbolize Dixie's struggle for sovereignty, it'd be "ain't".

Gillette made shaving your legs a thing to sell razor blades. Seriously.

Yep. Hard to argue that's a bad thing, though. I personally shave everywhere just because it makes me feel cleaner, lol.

Make up is just about attracting a mate, lots of animals do it too.

I don't think so. Married women wear make-up, asexual women wear make-up, etc. It's just about looking presentable. And even then, it doesn't explain why right-wingers think it's only for humans with vaginas.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

I have never understood the belief that make-up makes one look presentable. I've rarely ever liked it on anyone.

[–]Chipit[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Rouge and lipstick simulate the increased blood flow that women experience when sexually aroused. It attracts more male attention than a woman would get otherwise.

[–]Comatoast 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Why stop at simulating arousal when we can simulate cyanosis and necrosis with lipstick too?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Red is favored for a reason. You can make an absurd absolute argument if you want but it doesn't change anything.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I wasn't expecting a damn near on the spectrum-tier reply. I'm not arguing with you, Chip. I'm just trying to make a joke.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

It was less a joke and more an absurd absolute cause you got bitter that I had raised a valid point about women's faces flushing during sexual arousal and you trying to shit in the punchbowl by using disease metaphors.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't feel bitter at all replying to you. I generally don't feel bitter when I interact with your posts. I bring up points to potentially engage you/others more, and sometimes it's to see what personal viewpoints are. Sometimes I will go into a reply a little asshurt, but it's less aimed towards you than it is the contents of the title post.

The lipstick comment was genuinely a joke based off the fact that it's available and even pretty popular to wear blue and black lipstick, and I threw those disease metaphors in because I thought it was funny/facetious. Shit, I thought that most of our interactions just ended with banter when you flung the copypasta back at me. Were you thinking that I was being hostile this whole time, and I'm shit st reading signals?

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

I don't even know who you are.

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And this is acceptable because...