I just got banned from /r/scarysigns for posting CDC stats about covid

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[–]ChillyChili 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

I remember being on reddit and not knowing of any alternatives that weren't "full of hackers or crazy racists". It is extremely distressing to be shut down when even trying to question the narrative in communities that exist for exactly that purpose.

It was terrifying, and I too am very grateful for this community.

I guess, in a way, reddit is killing themselves off by going too far. With bannings and censorship becoming commonplace, people leave instead of staying and trying to "fit in" and "behave". Only problem is what prevents saidit from being the next target?

[–]magnora7[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Only problem is what prevents saidit from being the next target?

Saidit is already, and has been for a while, a target.

To prevent these types of attacks we got rid of the downvote and have two upvotes. This gets rid of most the user-level censorship.

Then we have saidit moderator rules that limit what the mods can delete. The removal of relevant information in a thread about that subject by mods, is not allowed on saidit, unless the mod has specified they will do so in the sidebar, and takes the sub off of the /all listing on saidit.

So these two new rules help a lot in preventing the intentionally damaging fake hiveminds from building up in an effort to drive off normal users.

[–]ChillyChili 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

That does help a lot. How do you fix real disinfo?

Like, you can't really because if you were reddit, their definition of disinfo is just the info challenging the desired narrative. Is upvoting good content enough? I mean, it might be, but just posing the question.

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I just simply apply our rules: https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

I don't judge the truth content of things, I merely judge the quality of discussion and moderate based on that, as per the site rules.

[–]ChillyChili 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ok. As a former digg/reddit/voat member, what happens when you leave or are forced to leave? What canary can you put up that is legit that wouldn't be compromised? I mean, hell, the conspiracist in me thinks that saidit is the new corral. While thats something that I have to decide, if you aren't, what means do you have to prevent that?

Like, on one hand I shouldn't know what your backup plans are since if I were a disinfo agent, I'd use it. On the other, if I'm not (and am) I'd like to know that there is a plan to prevent you from being strong armed into censoring or handing over user data. Silly tough balance in a "free" world that shouldn't even exist.. :(

[–]magnora7[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

I have a canary at /s/saiditcanary

We back up a lot. We have no reason we'd ever hand over user data, and we don't keep any extra data we don't need to operate the site.

If we got censored, we'd change server companies. We've already done it 3 times in the last 3 years.

We're prepared, don't worry.

[–]ChillyChili 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What guarantees do we have that the canary is and remains legit?

[–]magnora7[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The fact it's posed from my account, and I run the website

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

at least he respects us enough to put up the facade of a canary, on voat the owner of that stopped doing it so you know it got taken over for a fact

[–]ChillyChili 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's a valid point, and it really sucks about voat's canary.