REDDIT FUCKING SUCKS

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[–]bagano1 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

I think it should be ok to criticize a race(more so culture) or a person of a race, but once things start turning into a blind hatefest or racial supremacist deal like what happened to voat, I noped out.

That's what reddit didn't seem to understand. I was not a racist, I questioned certain things other cultures and races do.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (22 children)

So you don't think there's a blind hatefest going on here towards jews?

[–]bobbobbybob 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

Nope. There is some legitimate recognition of the role of Jews in certain past and current events, a couple of rabid haters, and that's about it. We've been conditioned to think ANY suggestion that the Jews (in abstract) have done anything wrong, ever, is "anti-Semitic", and that's bored deep into most people's psyche into preventing any valid criticism of their vast history of killing people... so anyone who is still stuck in that programming might find frank discussion of Mossad's activities, say, a little triggering

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (20 children)

I'm an American jew who's lived 15 years (half my life) in Israel but now i'm back in the US and it wasn't by my choice it was just my parent's decisions. But do you put yourself in the shoes of the people on the other side? There was the holocaust (many holocaust deniers on Saidit, yes it's that bad) and then Israel's been attacked a bunch by the surrounding arab countries and fought wars with them as well as suffering a gazillion terrorist attacks. My 2nd cousin was a victim of a suicide bombing at a pizza shop and she suffered 3rd degree burns, thankfully she didn't die. We've had certain leaders of muslim countries saying they flat out want to nuke israel... we've had our olympic team in germany get massacred. There's a reason that Israels intelligence agency has to be on their toes.

Like you trying to take the side of the muslims who are pretty fucking uncivilized. You really not know what kind of people the muslims are? Want to leave their religion they kill you, want to be gay, they kill you... just to name a few.

[–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

The holocaust is just another lie. The figures don't add up. holocaust deprogramming is an essential act of sanity. '6,000,000' is just as much a lie as the lampshades made of human flesh, the gas chambers, the ovens, the shotguns that curve around holes and the automatic sexdeath machines.

All fabrications of Jews, atrocity propaganda, designed to tar all re-nationalising of money control with an evil brush.

None of that matters in the case of Israel's current fight for life in a sea of insane Muslim states. Linking the two is dishonest. Its called a 'straw man'.

We can recognise the truth of Jewish behaviour, whilst also recognising that their enemies are insane fuckers too.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

So you don't think there's a blind hatefest going on here towards jews?

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Nope. There is some legitimate recognition of the role of Jews in certain past and current events, a couple of rabid haters, and that's about it.

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The holocaust is just another lie.

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You can't make this shit up. You're a comedian whether you know it or not. Holy fuck this is so fucking good i want other people to see this maybe i'll ping u/magnora7

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

I'm really not sure you equate rational analysis of the holocaust myth with ' hate'

the most beautiful woman I ever meet, with angelic energy rolling off her, was Jewish.

So, I've just shown that understanding the atrocity propaganda that is ' the holocaust'' Does not preclude positive feelings towards individual jews.

Your argument is false, and I could demonstrate it's absurdity by applying it anywhere.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

I mean when it comes to how wide the consensus is that the holocaust happened, it's pretty fucking wide. So wide in fact, that you're basically walking the same line as flat earthers by being a holocaust deniers. And generally where this sentiment comes from or is based in, is extreme suspicion and paranoia regarding jews. You can find jewish girls attractive and still be paranoid as hell towards jews.

So are you a flat earther also?

[–]Zahn 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

how wide the consensus is that the holocaust happened, it's pretty fucking wide

A widespread belief doesn't define what is "truth". History is bursting with examples of commonly accepted truths ending up being eventually proven false. You will have to use a different methodology to prove your beliefs.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

For sure. And i'm generally the type of person who is for questioning stuff and being skeptical. But we were talking about why i would equate holocaust denying with hating the jews. I'm saying there's generally an overlap between that tiny % of the population that is holocaust deniers and hating jews. And also people are usually uninclined to go against such widespread consensus out of fear of being outcast by society so it says a lot about you that you're willing to go against this consensus. Usually what that says is you have a pretty strong grudge against jews.

[–]bobbobbybob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

the consensus amongst who? people who have been told that their entire lives, or people who actually investigate the data.

Because I used to believe.... and then I studied the primary sources.

and no, the earth is a sphere, but good for you, using the #1 bargain basement shitty debating trick

You've also 'moved the goalposts'. First, it was unrelenting hatred towards jews, now its 'paranoid as hell'. If I could be bothered demonstration your latest REEEEEE was false, what would you shift it to then?

I didn't find her attractive, by the way. I found her beautiful. I met her during a very stressful time in my life, and her friendship was a balm on my soul.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

My own grandfather was a jewish Pole who joined the Russian army and liberated a concentration camp and all of his extended family and community were killed in the holocaust. So yeah you're coming across as crazy to me. Must be nice being able to claim it was all fake when you weren't personally affected by it. I guess this is like why people got mad at Alex Jones for the sandy hook thing.

I went to Poland myself when i was 18 and visited 3 concentration camps. I'm afraid to tell you mate but your sources are shit.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Its only the Jews and (((liberals))) who believe that hoax