The writing is on the wall for r/conspiracy

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    That is the method but simple doesn't mean easy. Also there's a difference between active addiction and alcoholism. You can be totally sober and still be an alcoholic. What we generally never can do is enjoy a single drink and be satisfied like a normal person. There's a saying, "One drink is too many and a thousand never enough."

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      I don't know why you'd assume I haven't attended AA meetings. They have dismal results though, quite a few of us would rather see it stop being touted as the gold standard of alcohol recovery. Old Bill W's original and personal plan involved LSD anyways, what we have now isn't even what worked for the co-founder.

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      You might be interested in reddit.com/r/dryalcoholics, that's a group generally for heavy alkies and the amount of experience there with substance abuse and recovery is impressive. That and the mod of reddit.com/r/alcohol_medication were what personally helped me mostly quit for a year when my liver was having issues, although I didn't go the route of medication (unless you count Kratom, which does help a lot of people quit drinking, although I use it for pain).

      Smart Recovery is often considered superior to AA there, although I have never attended. And people generally like NA better than AA, which I'd agree with.

      There's also r/stopdrinking, although that sub is both ban happy and geared more towards lighter drinkers, it has helped a lot of people. It's not really a black and white issue about the bans, I understand they ban people actively drinking to protect the other members, but that also means banning people in their hour of greatest need.

      [–]F--K_HITLER 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      i appreciate AA because it is a hotbed of mental and emotional disorders, and nothing more.

      most people in AA dont really want to quit drinking, they just want to say that they want to quit drinking.

      i do wish you well.

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      Thanks. I'm doing pretty well. My liver enzymes are back to normal and my drinking, while it is still excessive to normal standards, is no longer something I do every day or have to do to avoid WD.

      I did lose a woman I was very close to, she went from feeling fine to dead a month later from stage 4 liver disease. That's been a powerful motivator to avoid that same outcome for myself.

      [–]F--K_HITLER 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      if it ever seems like i am disrespectful to you, i hereby stand corrected. you are a fine person and if i can be of service to you in any way, i am available to you at any time of the day or night.

      kindness for you,

      me.