r/animemes bans the word 'trap'. Userbase floods the sub with trap memes.

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

No.

Astolfo is a former Servant turned into a human by his master's wish to the Holy Grail. He is the former Rider of Black from the Great Holy Grail War thirteen years before. Kept manifested by the Greater Grail, he is recruited by the Mages' Association and willingly makes a Master-Servant contract with Leo Solaris, if not a temporary one.

[–]SeasideLimbs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You are right. And you are also wrong.

He is indeed everything you just wrote - at least if we are talking about the character they call "Astolfo" in that anime.

The character people see in hentai or RP as or sexualize in whatever else way? He is a girl. Don't believe me?

  • His face isn't even just that of a woman. His face is literally hyper-feminine. His face is more feminine than that of most female supermodels.

  • 99.9% of hentai portrays him as wanting to be penetrated like a woman and generally behaving the way a woman would.

  • He is always shown wearing feminine clothing, including lingerie.

  • He has a hyper-feminine hairstyle: long, braided and pink.

...I don't know about you, but that sure sounds like a woman to me.

But, oh, wait, I hear you say. "He has a penis." So? That makes him into a dickgirl. "No breasts!" A flat-chested dickgirl. In fact, much hentai of him actually portrays him not with the "flat chest" of a man, but with slight bumps that would be called a "flat chest" for women. "None of that matters because he's literally conceived as a male character by his creator." Literally doesn't matter when you're jerking it. How I can make such a claim? Simple. I hereby create my own character called "Miss Girlygirl" who is a female character beloved for her femininity by everyone in the world she inhabits, including winning many a beauty pageant and being lusted after by many straight men. She's also 6 foot 4, ripped, thick body hair all over, double-chin, a face like Sylvester Stallone, can tear you in half, no breast tissue at all, likes nothing better than spending her free time fisting random women. Got a vagina though, so there is that. Clit like a hyena, too. I'll go ahead and wait for all the straight male artists to draw hentai of her and all the straight male weebs to jerk off to her. She's female, after all. Because I said so.

Astolfo is female.

[–]VimRazz 11 insightful - 3 fun11 insightful - 2 fun12 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

This is such trash.

Just because a boy doesn't fit with whatever bullshit societal stereotypes you think are appropriate for boys, that doesn't mean he's not a boy.

Just because a girl doesn't fit with whatever bullshit societal stereotypes you think are appropriate for girls, that doesn't mean she's not a girl.

Just because various alternate interpretations of a fictional character may present them in different ways, with different motivations, or different desires, that doesn't change the core identity of the character.

Just because you may have some personal fetish or fantasy that makes you want to think of a fictional character in a particular way, that doesn't change the core identity of the character, either.

The only thing your "argument" here shows is that you're too shallow to look past your favored biases and stereotypes.

[–]SeasideLimbs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Just because a boy doesn't fit with whatever bullshit societal stereotypes you think are appropriate for boys, that doesn't mean he's not a boy.

Gendered behaviour is not a social construct. Also, Astolfo has a woman's face. Not even a normal woman's face, but a hyper-feminine woman's face. I'm going by her body and making a statement about sex, so even if gendered behaviour was a social construct, my argument would still be correct.

Just because you may have some personal fetish or fantasy that makes you want to think of a fictional character in a particular way

Wut? No. Trust me, I have no such reasoning for my argument.

that doesn't change the core identity of the character.

Which is exactly what I said. Astolfo - as in, the anime character - is who he is. I'm talking about Astolfo the character people jerk off to in hentai. Two very different characters. And the people jerking off to her in hentai aren't thinking "Ohhh yeahhh suck that cock you knight who has this background." They are staring at a woman's face, a typical anime-woman's body who is behaving in typical hentai-girl fashion - except she has a flat chest and a dick. She's a dickgirl. The "core identity" of the character does not matter in this case exactly because that's not what people care about. A gigantic amount of the people jerking off to her (I would argue the vast majority) have never seen the anime. They don't know anything about a knight. They know nothing about some guy in some anime. All they see is a hyperfeminine dickgirl, and that's why they jerk off to her: because they are attracted to women and likely aroused by the taboo aspect of a dickgirl specifically.