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[–][deleted] 110 insightful - 6 fun110 insightful - 5 fun111 insightful - 6 fun -  (38 children)

they're banning subreddits that aren't even hateful. they can't even keep up with why they want to ban so many subreddits. a lot of these subs were just for women or gay people. but i guess if you have a sub that doesn't support the delusions of trans people or doesn't want them in it's hateful. because remember, trans people have to be in everything and you can't say no to them because that's hateful

[–][deleted] 16 insightful - 5 fun16 insightful - 4 fun17 insightful - 5 fun -  (37 children)

How do you feel about this one?

because remember, black people have to be in everything and you can't say no to them because that's hateful

[–][deleted] 59 insightful - 2 fun59 insightful - 1 fun60 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

just as dumb. i'm tired of people replacing white characters with black ones instead of making unique black characters, it's also not racist or hateful to not to put black characters in media. though i don't see what this has to do with my comment

[–]ThePlague 35 insightful - 3 fun35 insightful - 2 fun36 insightful - 3 fun -  (35 children)

Is it so radical to think that some white people might sometimes just want to be around other white people? You see blacks, hispanics, etc express similar views. Hell, on some college campuses, black-only spaces are made official by the school.

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    [–]ThePlague 40 insightful - 3 fun40 insightful - 2 fun41 insightful - 3 fun -  (21 children)

    It's not a "default white space" if anyone of any race can go there. So, if there are "places for minorities to meet up and support each other", there should likewise be places for whites to do the same. Fair is fair, after all.

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      [–]bobbobbybob 19 insightful - 1 fun19 insightful - 0 fun20 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

      Except the law, which deems such groups as racist and exclusive and being a member will get you kicked out of most colleges.

      Posting a pro-trump tiktok is enough to threaten enrollment.

      Whites are a minority, one that has been heavily invaded by a global majority, than then insists on building exclusive majority spaces within the last remaining holdouts of white minority clades.

      Your viewpoint is so small you are unable to see reality.

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        [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        On the less extreme end of the spectrum, many frats get by by just adding a few token "diversity" people, some clubs are largely white

        But you said:

        No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

        It's not true and now you're moving the goalpost.

        [–]Earl_Harbinger 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

        They're likely to get expelled...and it certainly wouldn't be supported by the college.

        Considering that other groups have had less access to colleges

        They currently have more access.

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          [–]Dragonerne 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Well, if they start to wear white hoods and chant they will not displace us.

          Moving the goalpost. Whites are not allowed to have white-only groups.

          Well, more if you mean before they didn't have any and now there is an effort to remedy that.

          Access to white people is not a human right.

          There's a difference between not supporting affirmative action because you think it's not meritocratic and flat out ignoring that some people have disadvantages socioeconomic or otherwise.

          It's called being privileged. A privilege mistakenly given by whites to non-whites that now are used to privilege and more begets more.

          Not saying that people have "privilege" which is a word I dislike

          I will say it. Non-whites are privileged.

          but some people have disadvantages that the government can step in to even out the playing field.

          Reframed: The government can discriminate against whites to favor non-whites in our own countries.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          if you're black and don't go to college and get it all paid for, you must be choosing not to go.

          [–]Cratis 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          There's lots wrong in what you said, but

          No one is stopping them from associating in white-only groups on their own time

          Is just ridiculous. Any student forming or joining such a group would be expelled--unless the group was secret, and if it were ever exposed the student would be expelled. There was a girl who got expelled last week merely for pointing out that black-on-black killing numbers dwarf by a hundreds or thousands of times police-on-black killings. And you saying "well, you could have an all or mostly white group so long as you don't call it" that just points out the double standard, because universities not only allow but encourage exclusive groups, programs, and scholarships for other races.

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            [–]Dragonerne 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            By "groups" I mean friend groups, clubs, associations, hobby groups, and places where you can socialize

            You can't have clubs, associations, hobby groups for whites-only without risking punishment.

            You're saying that in a school that is 60-99% white, that you still need a white support group for being white?

            Yes of course.

            but needing university resources to support you for being white and nothing else?

            Yes of course.

            Changing the setting to Mexico, in a university where students are 60-99% Mexican, do you need to have a Mexican support group?

            Whites don't want to mass immigrate to Mexico. Your example is asymmetric.

            Cancel culture.

            Yes, cancel culture against any pro-white advocay. Anti-white advocay is encouraged and taught in universities.

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              [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              Anything worthwhile is difficult. That should be a given.

              [–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

              the difference is generally there's no such thing as "white" as a broad culture - there's german, italian, irish, british, polish, Russian, but the overall "white culture" is a mix to the degree that sometimes hispanic is and sometimes it isn't included... For "black", there is a group of people in the US who descend from slaves and therefore lost their ancestry and share a history of overcoming that.

              white people a) don't even share the common history of being slaveowners since some never were and b) don't need to share a history based on that. So then what is "being white" that's being celebrated?

              [–]ThePlague 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

              Common European ancestry. We descendants of Europe have a great deal to be proud of, including building the most advanced civilization the world has ever known. The fact that we can communicate as we are right now is tribute to that.

              [–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

              India, China, Japan, Egypt, all over asia and the middle east did as much "civilization building" as Europe. Just because someone has the same color skin as some successful countries they claim heritage to things? A darker skinned person may have a much more direct ancestral link to a much more advanced nation, by the sorts of metrics you are considering. Iceland, Poland, Slovenia or Wales may not necessarily have a story of great technology and colonization to tell when compared to Iran, Turkey, Egypt or India, for example.

              Being near other countries is a random connection when you speak different languages, have different foods, cultures, religious traditions, laws, needs, and resources. The world is big, history is long, and a lot of things happened in a lot of places beyond just whatever particular events you are considering important. There are periods of great expanse and then of nothing for centuries in a lot of regions, there are exchanges and then separations, successes and failures.

              In the end it's just weird to get stuck on looking similar to some of the people who did some of the notable things during particular periods. If you're looking for merit comparisons why aren't you focused on people with high standardized test scores or some other actual proof of personal capacity? Visually resembling people who may have achieved things in previous centuries is not impressive.

              [–]ThePlague 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

              India, China, Japan, Egypt, all over asia and the middle east did as much "civilization building" as Europe.

              Oh, really? How many men have any of those countries put on the moon? My point was "most advanced civilization" that the world has ever seen. Europe, and their descendants, are responsible for that. As well as harnessing steam power, virtually all major scientific breakthroughs of the last 500 year (Galileo, Newton, Gauss, Maxwell, Gibbs, Boltzman, Einstein, Fermi, Bohr, Feynman, Hawkings, etc), harnessing electricity, harnessing the atom, computers, the internet, etc.

              [–]emptiedriver 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

              Again, did you go to the moon? Should a Russian with light skin have more pride about that than a dark skinned American who works for NASA? It isn't about the melanin.

              [–]bobbobbybob 14 insightful - 2 fun14 insightful - 1 fun15 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

              there are no default white spaces. All white countries are 'diverse' and there are no havens allowed.

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                [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                Eastern europe is not germanic.

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                  [–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                  You can't ask Eastern Europeans to give up their lands as havens for non-slavic peoples like the germanics and you also can't ask germanic peoples to seek refuge or "safe haven" in slavic lands.
                  Great of you to pull the nazi-card. Great argument.

                  Chances are "whites" in the US are not germanic either, but in this context white often but not always means western european ancestry. It is the germanic peoples that are being genocided and who is disallowed self-advocay.

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                    [–]whateverneverpine 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    Are you a white supremacist? What do white people need "havens" for in the United States?

                    [–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    are you a brain fucked leftist retard?

                    "white supremacist" don't exist, beyond a few untermensch in their mother's basements. It is patently obvious that most whites are seriously stupid and in no way superior to anyone. Yourself, for example.

                    No, I'm WHITE. I'd like WHITE spaces to hang out with people who are not judging me on my skin color ALL THE FUCKING TIME.

                    thanks

                    [–]africant 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

                    whines in minority

                    [–]StBlops2cel_is_Lord 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    Shouldn't there be places for minorities to meet up and support each other?

                    yes, they are called 'homes'

                    [–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                    What about schools where whites are the minority?