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[–]aldoushuxleyghost 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Ya. Orwell was right about the left. Welcome to 1984 clown world.

[–]Middernag 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You keep saying Orwell, but you still haven't realized that what he was really talking about was your "democratic" countries. That'll do pig, that'll do.

[–]aldoushuxleyghost 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm eastern european by birth/childhood/bent, though living in the US now and seeing leftists here, makes me embarrassed for them. They have no fucking clue about anything. Very naive and uneducated about what happens to the left when allowed to run unchecked.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Orwell was a socialist. Wouldn't that make him a leftist?

[–]Middernag 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I'm also pro-socialism and so were National Socialists. However I don't believe in forced taxation on social issues, I believe people should only pay for their fellow people if they decide to do so. Help your fellow white man who can't get a job because there aren't any? Sure why not. Pay for an abortion even though you don't care for it? Nah. Social issues should be based on choice in my opinion, and this was actually what NS really stood for. There were actually two schools of thought called Socialism in those days, you should look up the difference.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I prefer people be personally responsible most of the time, but I would like for healthcare to be affordable.

I was raised to think socialism was the same as communism, and also a leftist idea. I only recently learned George Orwell was a socialist, and it was confusing to me, because the same people who demonize socialism go around quoting him.

I'll definitely look more into it.

[–]VulpesLeonesque 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He adopted socialist views after becoming disgusted by colonialism while working for the Colonial Service in Burma, fought for the Republicans against the Nationalists in the Spanish Civil War, then got a look at what Stalinism was actually like and became disgusted all over again, and wrote Animal Farm and Nineteen Eighty-Four.

[–]aldoushuxleyghost 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes. He was criticizing his own side, and its propensity to authoritarian ways. The communist revolution in Russian was led by extreme leftists, and gave birth to Stalin, who killed more people than Hilter. 1984 was a warning to the leftists everywhere.