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[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I don't buy anything MartinTimothy says/copy-pastes.

He's a shitposter. Look at his overview and go back a few pages... /user/MartinTimothy

I've heard the official death toll is actually inflated. This is pure echoing of stuff, perhaps nonsense I've heard but haven't looked into. The DNA that they got only identified half of the alleged victims, leaving the other half as missing but presumed dead - if they ever even existed. I don't know if I'm just repeating crap I heard or if this is legit.

Some claim they wanted maximum body count for maximum emotional impact. This makes sense, especially with the reports of telling people nothing to flee, etc.

Personally I think they should count all the first responders who died of cancer. That's a significant number.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

That's a significant number.

Is that data available? If so, I'd like to see it. If not, how do you know?

(Just healthy scepticism; I'm not even bothering to critique MartinTimothy at the moment because I'm tired of that.)

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=9%2F11+first+responders+death+count

I picked one from Aug. 2017:

https://www.cnn.com/2017/08/17/health/9-11-cancer-first-responders-father-son/index.html

Counting the 9/11 cancers

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's World Trade Center Health Program provides medical monitoring and treatment for emergency responders, workers and volunteers who helped in rescue and recovery after the 9/11 attacks.

The program also provides health evaluations and treatment for people who were in the disaster area. Research suggests that some cancers may be tied to exposures from the 9/11 attacks, according to the World Trade Center Health Program.

The CDC said in an emailed statement that as of June 30, 7,139 people enrolled in the program were certified with at least one type of cancer covered by the program.

Among those, 6,028 were responders. The top certified cancers among responders included non-melanoma skin, prostate, melanoma, lymphoma and thyroid.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I don't trust CNN, but that's high publicity. I'll have to follow that up.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Look at the link above CNN.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Now I see why you hypothesised Anthrax. Though iirc that doesn't cause cancer.

I'd expect it to be from exposure to heavy smoke, perhaps burning asbestos – that sort of thing. In which case the primary cancer would be lung cancer. I don't know if that's the case, though.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anthrax is not a hypothesis, but it is another issue altogether.

Watch that documentary too.