MGTOW is bullshit and we all know it. C'mon nigga get real.

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[–]JasonCarswell 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (13 children)

Clearly you don't understand MGTOW.
Half of what you said supports their case.
The other half completely misinterprets their case.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (12 children)

I don't disagree with MGTOW...IF you can take them at face value...but if you've spent any amount of time investigating it you know it's horseshit. There might be a few good eggs but it's by far, a bunch of men who hate women.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

What is the strongest argument for "no woman should be hated"?

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (10 children)

That's not what I implied.

[–]Node 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (9 children)

You don't disagree with it, but think it's horseshit?

[–]Foidblaster9000 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

The way I took her comment was looking at it like how something with a solid point is presented versus how it ends up in practice when subverted towards chaos

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

That's a good way to put it. I don't have a problem with anyone who doesn't want to pursue a romantic relationship, that's fine. The group is full of bitter people though.

[–]Node 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun -  (4 children)

Many groups in real life have some degree of a non-qualifying fringe. I remember when theredpill started on reddit, it was practical and rational. Then around 5000 subscribers it became known as "the worst sub on reddit", and retarded angry assholes started flooding in, due to the false promotion.

IMO, the non-qualified have no effect on the ideas or philosophies they claim (or just imply) they represent. Even if 99% of claimers are fakes, that doesn't give them any authority to represent something they don't.

u/Melodic_Programmer

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Your points are fair.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks. I didn't start off very well with my first reply.

[–]Foidblaster9000 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

They don't have authority, but at the same time they end up with some sort of power to segway that by the nature of most social platforms. People come to those platforms to learn about a concept, but end up refusing to do the actual footwork and research themselves or even just read provided material presented in the box thing (I don't know what it's called, Reddit is gay). People are lazy, so they end up getting the answers to their questions from the loudest or maybe most biased, and even the most wrong commenters instead of source material.

[–]Node 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

the box thing

It probably has an 'official' term, but I don't know what it's called either. "The box thing" works for me.

It's hard to find quality data, or rather it usually takes a lot of sifting through info-dreck to find the good nuggets.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

"No woman should be hated" is just not in any way what I conveyed.

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There might be a few good eggs but it's by far, a bunch of men who hate women.

I don't see the people you describe as actually representing MGTOW, although I haven't spent much time investigating. Is hating women really the philosophy of that group, or are the haters a fringe who don't represent MGTOW?

We see the same phenomenon in religion and politics too. Conservatives who don't conserve. Christians who aren't Christian.

Seems pretty common for people to falsely represent themselves as something they think they want to be, but are not.