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Silent SmugglersFlawed Argument
submitted 5 years ago by wizzwizz4 from self.LogicPuzzles
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[–]wizzwizz4[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 5 years ago (5 children)
I don't know whether I'm right about this; just because I made the puzzle doesn't mean I know the right answer.
Assuming that the things that one smuggler states and the other doesn't contradict (or that both smugglers agree on) are true: Smuggler B is louder than Smuggler A. Smuggler A is not loud. But what is "loud"? It has one of two meanings: A continuous spectrum ranging from "silent" to "deafening" and carrying on indefinitely. A boolean "loud" or "quiet". Since there can be a quiet thing, and a quiet thing half as loud, it follows that there must exist at least two different loudnesses that are both "quiet", i.e. both "not loud", and so Smuggler A's "louder than not loud" argument is invalid. This does not, however, mean that Smuggler B is quiet; it merely means that we cannot say for sure that Smuggler B is not quiet. This, however, is irrelevant. Note that the smugglers stopped walking and stopped whispering during their debate. This suggests that they got distracted by their argument. Often, when distracted from moderating it, a person's voice will return to "normal" levels. Often, when in an argument, a person's voice will be loud. The presence of the nearby light further suggests that the smugglers are both being loud by the end of the story; they have probably been noticed.
Assuming that the things that one smuggler states and the other doesn't contradict (or that both smugglers agree on) are true:
But what is "loud"? It has one of two meanings:
Since there can be a quiet thing, and a quiet thing half as loud, it follows that there must exist at least two different loudnesses that are both "quiet", i.e. both "not loud", and so Smuggler A's "louder than not loud" argument is invalid.
This does not, however, mean that Smuggler B is quiet; it merely means that we cannot say for sure that Smuggler B is not quiet.
This, however, is irrelevant.
Note that the smugglers stopped walking and stopped whispering during their debate. This suggests that they got distracted by their argument. Often, when distracted from moderating it, a person's voice will return to "normal" levels. Often, when in an argument, a person's voice will be loud.
The presence of the nearby light further suggests that the smugglers are both being loud by the end of the story; they have probably been noticed.
[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 5 years ago (4 children)
How close is humid?
[–]wizzwizz4[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 5 years ago (3 children)
I don't understand.
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[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 5 years ago (2 children)
Close means humid. My late grandpa used to say, "It's getting close out." I think it's an old saying. Maybe like it's getting close to raining.
[–]wizzwizz4[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 5 years ago (1 child)
Ah. Erm, 90% humidity? I don't know. It depends.
[–]JasonCarswell 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 5 years ago (0 children)
It's just a saying old people (who may still be alive) say.
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