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[–]d3rr 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Cool, he's becoming a Purism marketing dude/evangelist.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Purism are really helping the FOSS market with the systems they're producing, but they aren't really accomplishing what they claim to (make a completely open piece of hardware).

[–]d3rr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I'm sure they want to. I think their phone will have closed source phone/modem firmware only. I assume that if enough people hop on the privacy train, that eventually it becomes possible to have open hardware. The market has to prove it's there to support this.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Except, ThinkPenguin has existed for years.

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

ThinkPenguin is just lipstick on a pig? I see Intel CPUs and Realtek network cards that might have proprietary firmware.

At any rate, the Snowden leaks and all of this political censorship has reignited privacy advocacy. I look forward to a Kickstarter someday for an open network card. Maybe Purism will get it done.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

ThinkPenguin hardware doesn't require proprietary blobs. Their firmware might be proprietary, but Purism's is.

I have faith that Purism will be able to do something, though.

[–]d3rr 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'll take it from wherever I can get it. I guess I'm a Purism fanboy after watching one of those dudes on an hour long podcast. He said all the right things.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I really want one of those laptops, but not enough to buy one. I might go for a ThinkPenguin, but they're quite old. (You can run completely FOSS software on them, though!)

[–]d3rr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You can run completely FOSS software on them, though!

What is your purism beef? Are you saying there's blobs in PureOS? Are you saying PureOS only support is a drag?

This makes it sound like there are no blobs, and they also use coreboot for bios https://puri.sm/learn/blobs/

Edit: PureOS is on the Stallman approved list even: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

And you can switch to a different OS too.

Their firmware might be proprietary, but Purism's is.

I guess I'm asking about this part. The ThinkPenguins do look really nice too. They're all Intel CPUs anyway.

[–]wizzwizz4 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Purism is great, but it's not perfect. I recommend reading this criticism, if only because it's critical. https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/3anjgm/on_the_librem_laptop_purism_doesnt_believe_in/

(I still want a one, though.)

[–]wizzwizz4 0 insightful - 2 fun0 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

It is a fact that GNU IS a part of Linux wherever Linux is running right?

This isn't a fact, actually. The Linux kernel can be used happily with an OS other than GNU.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Did you watch it? He lays that out.

[–]wizzwizz4 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Have I ever watched a video? :-p Though, I do already know the facts about this situation, and plan to watch this one for the opinion when I've got free time.

[–]JasonCarswell[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Take off your ass hat and watch a video before commenting on some screen grabbed out of context text.

When you assume, you make an ass out of u, butt not me.