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[–]NuclearBadger 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

applefag can't linux. Not even surprised.

[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're busy selling their souls to apple.

[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's the fault of manufacturers that many printers aren't plug'n'play in linux. They could offer better support and work with kernel developers for proper integration.

The desktop is pretty fine for most people, but if you are used to the way macOS works I understand that it doesn't feel right.

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, engineering is not magic. Microsoft has a shit ton of money to staff thousands of device driver developers and QA testers. Linux does not. It's as simple as that. After Microsoft implemented plug & play back in the late 90's the deal was already done. The GPL didn't help Linux in this area either.

[–]x0x7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They generally are. Linux was more plug and play than Windows for a long time because printers still shipped drivers with printers in CDs and you were expected to run that CD (not plug and play), but since those drivers obviously wouldn't work on Linux, Linux had to resort to using THE INTERNET and also generic drivers.

Linux was the first to have an internet approach to printer drivers, first to have software repositories or "app stores", yet managed to keep that optional unlike mobile crap, and first, actually second, to get OS level containerization. BSD actually gets that one, but it beat Windows and that's important. It was also the first consumer OS to have a reasonable shell environment.

In some way Windows is as uniformly graphical as it is not because its user base requires it but because even technical audiences couldn't be expected to do anything substantive with CMD. You had no choice but to make it graphical even if it doesn't make a ton of sense, even if you are building a program for 30 technicians to use.

[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Good article. Linux is designed for techno-scum. Of course I use a Mac.

[–]GeorgeCarlin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

mopeOS is designed for little girls, though. Riding their literal plastic (with the obselence already built-in) tricycles for horrendous cost and still smiling about it. Little, mostly very naive rugrats, so to say.

[–]x0x7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The argument against Linux is a joke here. Apple-fags immediately attack a system on vague and unmeaningful terms. I'm sure if I beg for more specific examples they will find a few, but that's not where they go on instinct. Where they go is virtue signalling that they are more artfully opinionated and "your system sucks" ...because... "I have good opinions." How do you argue with that? Excuse me sir. I'm sorry to inform you that you in fact have bad opinions. That's the rebuttal you are left with. It's true though.

Worthless people.

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

If you really look into it you'll see Linux was deliberately designed to be a crap user experience by it's core developers (the NSA) so it would not become a serious competitor to Windows domination of the consumer PC OS market.

[–]package 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. Linux itself, along with the standard set of GNU utilities is miles ahead of Windows in both security and usability, and always has been. The desktop environments that provide windows/mac-like interaction are made by many different teams with vastly different goals and have nothing to do with the NSA

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Whatever. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about but sure, believe what you want. Oh and that security you mention? Did you mean SELinux? You might want to look up which US Government agency is credited with developing it. Hint: It has 3 letters and the first one is N.

Linux is a bullshit user experience by design and practically every office and every business that tried to switch their operations to use Linux found that out the hard way and had to switch back to using windows. Linux has no proper documentation and no proper support and the vast majority of Linux code is contributed by the NSA much of it covertly. They are known to have tried to insert backdoors into linux at least three times and they have code running in the linux kernel to this day.

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao "you have no idea what you are talking about" says the guy arguing that an open source project that can be built and audited by anyone at any time is somehow less secure than a proprietary operating system.

And no btw, I'm not talking about SElinux, I'm talking about Linux itself. Interested to hear what specific part of the "user experience" of Linux you think is bullshit by design.

[–]Ludditebardd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First tried Linux on my very first computer in 2001/2. Went full time Linux in 2012. I am not special, it is not that hard.

The best analogy I can think of is like TV. If you watch a ton of it, watch the news shows and gossip and just general crap, you are 100% into vaccines, 1/6, Ukrainian bs and so on. If you don't watch TV you only register these topics third party, usually online with memes.

Linux, and computers in general, is similar. If you only use Crapple or TinyLimp that is your reality. If you use Linux, you hear about these issues through a third party.
Again, it is not that hard. I am not that bright, anyone can use Linux.

[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because it takes time to make it fit your working style.

But when you rather live a slave's life to buy apple trash... So be it.

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess options are a pro, but become a con when you have to decide on those options and figure out how to use ones that you aren't familiar with.

[–]catfishrising 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

He's right about lack of cohesion, blame Gnome for that. Those cunts are the ones pushing client-side decorations, which makes programs made for Gnome look wrong in other environments.

[–]Myocarditis-Man 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it definitely feels like some people (a group whose products start with a G) are doing their very best to tear apart and ruin any semblance of a cohesive desktop experience on Linux. Basically they have an enlightened vision for how everything should behave, and they don't care about anyone or anything else. Sometimes it feels as though they go the opposite way from the rest of the community and remove options to revert things to the way we want them to be, purely out of spite and contempt. This is especially a problem because they control not only their own desktop environment, but e.g. the open/save dialogs of other applications as well.

I think that if I wasn't as skilled and stubborn as I am, I would have given up a wile ago. I also believe that the more mainstream Linux becomes, the worse the problem will get.