Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? by Drewski in Linux

[–]JoGooD 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You might want to consider having a phone appart from the computer device. It would make things easier, especially for privacy concerns.

Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? by Drewski in Linux

[–]NuclearBadger 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, if you want basic phone function. Absolutely not in a decade if you want something like a current smartphone.

It's not even the base phone or the operating system, Linux is just flat out better, it's that every piece of walled garden software does not want you to know what it does.

Linux lived, Linux is alive, Linux will live by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Evolution:

Dwarf/Windows ► Human/Mac ► Elf/Linux

Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? by Drewski in Linux

[–]Vulptex 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Rooted android

Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? by Drewski in Linux

[–]detarame 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? by Drewski in Linux

[–]Fisuxcel 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

check out volla phone, it comes with ubuntu touch

Is there hope for Linux on smartphones? by Drewski in Linux

[–]HongKongPhooey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Linux lived, Linux is alive, Linux will live by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

That's a very smart move by Russia. The US badly needs to follow in this move.

Linux lived, Linux is alive, Linux will live by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Maybe you get the gist of me emigrating to Russia.... ;-)

They most likely will take me with a kiss on both cheeks.

Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Pis-dur 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's why I install Debian-based distros on my friends devices.

Official Ubuntu Blog Has Just Promoted Microsoft Windows+Systemd by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]HongKongPhooey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You can't be serious...😞

It's Time to Ditch 32-Bit Linux for 64-Bit by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]AuthoritarianReddit6 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've never seen a compelling reason to run 32-bit Linux on an x86-64 processor.

How I manage my passwords by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Dunwidit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm not sure but... Were you speaking Chinese?

Flatpak Is Not the Future by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]lessalarming 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes, it can be an "advantage" to have the ability to adopt technologies w/out toolchains connected to legacy C/C++ (C/C++ is not a "standard")

Open Source C/C++ compilers aka C++17 standards may not compile proprietary C/C++ languages

Rust Lang and hopefully carbon-lang will be the place where a new Rome can be built from.

redox-os is likely to be OS where binary stability will happen...so, that compile once and run on any future version of Microsoft windows (Redox OS) will work.

Redox-OS is re-rewriting the whole OS...so that it could be "essentially" be a Flatpak binary compatible for all Opensource software like Software is "flatapck" safe on Windows.

India is the 5th largest economy surpassing the UK...the colonizer is now the colonized...A lot of Toilet Paper, TP, is going to be needed to fix the UK.

Why Ubuntu Isn’t a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Fisuxcel 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

noobuntu

Why Ubuntu Isn’t a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Linux makes a great server but the office apps suck ass.

Why Ubuntu Isn’t a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Huliver 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Ubuntu is that African Linux that smells funny.

Why Ubuntu Isn’t a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Way too many poor choices. MX Linux is much nicer. It would be nice if pure debian made an effort though.

Why Ubuntu Isn’t a Flagship Linux Desktop Distribution Anymore by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Imho it never was. It was made to get young students (like me in about 2005) to realize what debian actually is.

Linux on Desktop is Not Ready, and may Never Be by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]notafed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I disagree. Running LMDE on my laptop right now. If I absolutely need windows software, I use a VM.

Linux on Desktop is Not Ready, and may Never Be by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I had a mint install on my last box. There was nothing wrong with it. I got windows free with my current laptop, but if I'd have had to pay any more than that I would've put linux on it.

Linux on Desktop is Not Ready, and may Never Be by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]chadwickofwv 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Bullshit. The only issue now is some games do not run on it, but that is very quickly changing. In most cases the only reason a game will not run is the developer did not click the checkbox to allow the anticheat to run on Linux.

AHK_X11 - AutoHotkey for Linux by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How do you find the tools i've been searching for ?

Debian to Send Search Queries of Debian Users Worldwide to Microsoft Servers in Order to Get Brainwashed/Manipulated by Microsoft Bing (While Being Spied on by Microsoft and US Intelligence Agencies) by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty crazy article. Do they really think that Google search doesn't brainwash/manipulate and spy on them? Do they think google isn't a US Intelligence asset?

Flatpak Is Not the Future by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They only know "standard" programming languages and the older paradigms most of the times though.

But they have a lot of whiz kids, i know firsthand.

That'll work hard to get you, what you need.

Flatpak Is Not the Future by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]jamesK_3rd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I believe that is one of the biggest differences in the generations past, and those from say the boomers forward.

Everything was made with the intent of how do I make this thing so I can use this thing.. if you read things from K&R or even RMS, it was about doing the thing.

While people today design apps and applications with no long term intent, the idea is to sell it to Google or someone, make a billion gillion dollars and then do something else.

That's why when I hear developers use buzz words like security or inclusion, they're usually not thoughtful.

Flatpak Is Not the Future by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]lessalarming 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Preventing the Collapse of Civilization / Jonathan Blow (Thekla, Inc) https://youtu.be/ZSRHeXYDLko

This speaker compares our modern day software library bloat to the collapse of Rome...That Rome like Software could start failing like satellites from space like in Year 2000 bug that was scam.

He just goes on to say that the solution is a re-write and better development tools...which is similar to the great reset.

(only India and it's technology can save us now) Only they like Neo know how to harness the power of things going shitty.

We must become one w/ India and see the shit around us.

Flatpak Is Not the Future by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The future doesn't require perfection, it simply requires mass adoption. If everyone standardizes on something then its the future. Or at least for the foreseeable future.

The 'Linux' Foundation is Working Against Linux for People Who Reject Linux by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Worrysome trend

Flatpak Is Not the Future by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]jamesK_3rd 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Pretty well thought out. That is the state of most software and OS today, everyone has gotta eat, and usually it's not ramen that's on the menu, it's a filet and caviar.

The 'Linux' Foundation is Working Against Linux for People Who Reject Linux by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]lessalarming 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Linux has the possibility to be an amazing desktop operating system. It has https://www.musl-libc.org/ and LLVM/Clang to make application binary compatibility between linux releases (a Linux from 2020 could work on a linux release in 2030 like in Windows) snap package management is good...

Finding Apps in the app stores is slow..

It hasn't made a control panel that is pluggable...

Graphics and Audio are (wayland, pulse are not there yet)

Desktop's are kludge simply drag and dropping...making shortcuts...is a hit or miss

https://www.redox-os.org/ This in time will be the OS to use...it could hit every nail with it being a microkernel.

Debian to Send Search Queries of Debian Users Worldwide to Microsoft Servers in Order to Get Brainwashed/Manipulated by Microsoft Bing (While Being Spied on by Microsoft and US Intelligence Agencies) by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Drewski 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

This is hyperbole, they're just changing the default search engine from Google to DuckDuckGo. DDG does get it's results from Bing but it is a proxy, it (ostensibly) anonymizes the queries.

Nix/NixOS on the way to be the first IPFS powered package manager and GNU/Linux distribution: IPFS Grants Platform for Nix was accepted by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh I didn't realise it was so limited. That's a shame.

Nix/NixOS on the way to be the first IPFS powered package manager and GNU/Linux distribution: IPFS Grants Platform for Nix was accepted by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]HongKongPhooey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Could potentially be integrated into NAS storage systems like openmediavault. Or as shared forum database storage.

Forum database could be problematic, IPFS is based on append-only logs similar to a blockchain, so there isn't actually a way to delete anything (let alone decide how you are going to delete an item from every peers copy of the DB). It gets worse, even if you had a clever way to do deletions, doing something like creating 50M posts and deleting them would still create 100M long chain of records just to store an empty DB, since you have to store the transaction records forever to build the models out of the logs. Just take a look at the ever increasing and unscalable size of a full bitcoin node that has to keep track of every transaction ever made just to store a current balance, and can literally take days to sync.

It makes sense for storing content addressable versions of software, but I don't see how this is a scalable way to build a p2p database for social media

Nix/NixOS on the way to be the first IPFS powered package manager and GNU/Linux distribution: IPFS Grants Platform for Nix was accepted by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is low key huge .. Could potentially be integrated into NAS storage systems like openmediavault. Or as shared forum database storage.

Distrotest is gone by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]CreditKnifeMan 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's a new hire.. who's a bit weird.

GNU/Linux Market Share Worldwide, Based on 3 Million Sites’ Logs, Rose to All-Time High (3%) This Month by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good news. That's not even including non GNU Linux based systems.

GNU/Linux Market Share Worldwide, Based on 3 Million Sites’ Logs, Rose to All-Time High (3%) This Month by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Linux was my platform of choice for a webserver. It was free and it worked.

UwUntu Linux - The Operating System for Weeaboos (oh boy) by Optimus85 in Linux

[–]Optimus85[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's a very niche OS and more of a novelty than a serious Linux distro. I wouldn't install it on my computer but I found the concept amusing and frivolous.

UwUntu Linux - The Operating System for Weeaboos (oh boy) by Optimus85 in Linux

[–]Vulptex 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

When did UwU become a weeb thing? I only ever saw furries using it until recently.

Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've just happened to be giving Devuan a run lately.

systemd does have a huge problem, aside from being complicated and not very transparent: you can't reliably turn things off and updates will turn them back on.

People complain init scripts are too inconsistent, but systemd configs are done in very inconsistent ways, causing many things to be buried many layers deep. Some give the impression of doing so purposely to hide or discourage stopping them.

Those things you can't turn off seem to always be security or privacy leaking bullshit turned on by default. It has let Debian and Ubuntu slip to become more and more like Windows, as they come out of the box being as privacy leaking as a smart phone.

Devuan, without systemd, still has all this leaking, telemetry collection, and attack surface on by default, but you don't have so much trouble finding stuff to turn it off.

Things like excessive NTP pool connections. You do not need your computer to connect to 50+ remote IPs every 5 minutes to keep your date and time up to date. Your local router should be the only NTP your local computers connect to, ever. Your router can deal with the periodic remote polling and it probably only needs done like twice a week, tops.

AVAHI. if I could only turn it off and keep it off, even uninstall it all the way. Who turns this garbage on by default, wtf!

cups/sane. Why do I want my computer to spew network packets, looking for printers, by default? Why do I have to turn off 3 things and manually nuke 2 config files to get it to stop doing so?

motd-news,apt updating. The Windows world normalized a way to spy on the world by accident: the auto update. Software providers learned that excessive auto updates and update checks leave a log of your IP, software version, and system info, in their update servers. This log becomes very valuable telemetry data collection. Telemetry pings are a huge privacy leak, which becomes a huge security weakness. I no longer use stock Mozilla FireFox because of their massive baked in telemetry; If you close a browser tab, a network packet is sent to Mozilla telling them.

Debian/Ubuntu telemetry pings Canonical's UK web servers like 15 times a day through the many auto-updates. When I set my package sources to US mirrors, I expect my system to NEVER connect to a foreign country by default. Network connections across country boarders are a security, legal, and privacy risk and should be a user decision.

All those telemetry pings can not only be collected by the greedy data usurping software providers, but can also be collected by side observers. This type of side-channel attack allows users to be mapped and tracked by many parties. Google, Amazon, and Cloud-flair already have a monopoly on tracking everyone's every Internet step via this method. An Ubuntu mystery application connects to a Google server at every startup, smuggled through a system process, anyways.

Plenty more, but I'll end my rant here.

Everyone Hates systemd - exploring one of Linux’s most heated holy wars by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not everyone. One counter-example is typing right here.

Or maybe I'm just too lazy to switch all my configs again.

Who knows. ^ ~ ^

Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just installed MX Linux and it's quite nice, so Peppermint doesn't really seem to offer much (aside from the systemd-free variant)

Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Reed_Solomon 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I dunno, do I want obtuse and incomprehensible systemd or simple init scripts?

The only problem is since everyone decided on obtuse and incomprehensible, then for compatibility that's what you gotta go with.

Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There are problems with systemd. But i had none so far.

Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

While I understand not liking systemd for its ever-increasing scope, do people genuinely want to go back to the horrible old days of obtuse and unreliable init scripts?

Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

With their release of Peppermint OS 11, they dropped using Ubuntu as the base for Debian to make Peppermint OS more stable and reliable.

LOL.

Peppermint OS Now Also Offers a Systemd-free Devuan Variant by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]NuclearBadger 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Might have a look cheers.

Debian Cannot Keep Burying the Inconvenient Facts by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Please note that Ian Murdock's death was a suspicious one. See here. I don't have much more information at hand right now. There was a ruqqus thread but it's down. Requires research.

It's Time to Ditch 32-Bit Linux for 64-Bit by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Anytime anyone says it is time to ditch backwards capability they should automatically be discredited. Specially for the lame reasons given in this lame article.

Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide - an in-depth exploration of the art of shell scripting by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]jamesK_3rd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You want a good place to start with bash, this place is the bees knees

https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide

Debian Cannot Keep Burying the Inconvenient Facts by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Didn't watch the video but the summary sounds suspiciously like it's pushing the progressive idea of censorship where not explicitly censoring people is implicitly censoring other people

Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide - an in-depth exploration of the art of shell scripting by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]notafed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah. Looks like server side problems. Now I'm getting a 503 "Bad Gateway" error.

Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide - an in-depth exploration of the art of shell scripting by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]TheRealPanzer[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yesterday it worked just fine ...

Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide - an in-depth exploration of the art of shell scripting by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]notafed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Getting a 404 not found on that link, and a 403 forbidden for tldp.org itself.

The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Myocarditis-Man 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yes it definitely feels like some people (a group whose products start with a G) are doing their very best to tear apart and ruin any semblance of a cohesive desktop experience on Linux. Basically they have an enlightened vision for how everything should behave, and they don't care about anyone or anything else. Sometimes it feels as though they go the opposite way from the rest of the community and remove options to revert things to the way we want them to be, purely out of spite and contempt. This is especially a problem because they control not only their own desktop environment, but e.g. the open/save dialogs of other applications as well.

I think that if I wasn't as skilled and stubborn as I am, I would have given up a wile ago. I also believe that the more mainstream Linux becomes, the worse the problem will get.

Linux 6.0 arrives with performance improvements (AMD GPU related) and more Rust coming by Drewski in Linux

[–]Drewski[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Upgrading from Debian Jessie to Bullseye after nearly 30 years by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]detarame 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I recently upgraded from Ubuntu 20.04 to Bullseye and I regret nothing.

Upgrading from Debian Jessie to Bullseye after nearly 30 years by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

a) it was a test box and b) for computers I use personally, they're on LTSC with everything turned off.

Upgrading from Debian Jessie to Bullseye after nearly 30 years by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]adultmanhwa 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

really? don't need to fix it? I mean those 'prying eyes'? 👀 😆

Upgrading from Debian Jessie to Bullseye after nearly 30 years by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]iamonlyoneman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Today I upgraded from Windows 7 to 10 on a computer at work with about four clicks and a few rebbots. I had to fix nothing afterward.

just saying.

I Raised My Kids On the Command Line...and They Love It by Drewski in Linux

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I was raised on the command line, all we had, and I even used a command line point of sale terminal, which is awesome btw. There's a lot of stuff that's far faster to type than to click a box.

I Raised My Kids On the Command Line...and They Love It by Drewski in Linux

[–]Drewski[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]catfishrising 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's right about lack of cohesion, blame Gnome for that. Those cunts are the ones pushing client-side decorations, which makes programs made for Gnome look wrong in other environments.

The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lmao "you have no idea what you are talking about" says the guy arguing that an open source project that can be built and audited by anyone at any time is somehow less secure than a proprietary operating system.

And no btw, I'm not talking about SElinux, I'm talking about Linux itself. Interested to hear what specific part of the "user experience" of Linux you think is bullshit by design.

The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Whatever. You clearly have no clue what you are talking about but sure, believe what you want. Oh and that security you mention? Did you mean SELinux? You might want to look up which US Government agency is credited with developing it. Hint: It has 3 letters and the first one is N.

Linux is a bullshit user experience by design and practically every office and every business that tried to switch their operations to use Linux found that out the hard way and had to switch back to using windows. Linux has no proper documentation and no proper support and the vast majority of Linux code is contributed by the NSA much of it covertly. They are known to have tried to insert backdoors into linux at least three times and they have code running in the linux kernel to this day.

The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

mopeOS is designed for little girls, though. Riding their literal plastic (with the obselence already built-in) tricycles for horrendous cost and still smiling about it. Little, mostly very naive rugrats, so to say.

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[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I guess options are a pro, but become a con when you have to decide on those options and figure out how to use ones that you aren't familiar with.

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[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

They're busy selling their souls to apple.

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[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because it takes time to make it fit your working style.

But when you rather live a slave's life to buy apple trash... So be it.

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[–]x0x7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The argument against Linux is a joke here. Apple-fags immediately attack a system on vague and unmeaningful terms. I'm sure if I beg for more specific examples they will find a few, but that's not where they go on instinct. Where they go is virtue signalling that they are more artfully opinionated and "your system sucks" ...because... "I have good opinions." How do you argue with that? Excuse me sir. I'm sorry to inform you that you in fact have bad opinions. That's the rebuttal you are left with. It's true though.

Worthless people.

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[–]x0x7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They generally are. Linux was more plug and play than Windows for a long time because printers still shipped drivers with printers in CDs and you were expected to run that CD (not plug and play), but since those drivers obviously wouldn't work on Linux, Linux had to resort to using THE INTERNET and also generic drivers.

Linux was the first to have an internet approach to printer drivers, first to have software repositories or "app stores", yet managed to keep that optional unlike mobile crap, and first, actually second, to get OS level containerization. BSD actually gets that one, but it beat Windows and that's important. It was also the first consumer OS to have a reasonable shell environment.

In some way Windows is as uniformly graphical as it is not because its user base requires it but because even technical audiences couldn't be expected to do anything substantive with CMD. You had no choice but to make it graphical even if it doesn't make a ton of sense, even if you are building a program for 30 technicians to use.

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[–]package 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is the dumbest thing I've read all day. Linux itself, along with the standard set of GNU utilities is miles ahead of Windows in both security and usability, and always has been. The desktop environments that provide windows/mac-like interaction are made by many different teams with vastly different goals and have nothing to do with the NSA

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[–]Ludditebardd 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

First tried Linux on my very first computer in 2001/2. Went full time Linux in 2012. I am not special, it is not that hard.

The best analogy I can think of is like TV. If you watch a ton of it, watch the news shows and gossip and just general crap, you are 100% into vaccines, 1/6, Ukrainian bs and so on. If you don't watch TV you only register these topics third party, usually online with memes.

Linux, and computers in general, is similar. If you only use Crapple or TinyLimp that is your reality. If you use Linux, you hear about these issues through a third party.
Again, it is not that hard. I am not that bright, anyone can use Linux.

The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]raven9 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If you really look into it you'll see Linux was deliberately designed to be a crap user experience by it's core developers (the NSA) so it would not become a serious competitor to Windows domination of the consumer PC OS market.

The Linux Desktop is Hard to Love by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]sproketboy 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nah, engineering is not magic. Microsoft has a shit ton of money to staff thousands of device driver developers and QA testers. Linux does not. It's as simple as that. After Microsoft implemented plug & play back in the late 90's the deal was already done. The GPL didn't help Linux in this area either.

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[–]fschmidt 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Good article. Linux is designed for techno-scum. Of course I use a Mac.

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[–]asterias 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the fault of manufacturers that many printers aren't plug'n'play in linux. They could offer better support and work with kernel developers for proper integration.

The desktop is pretty fine for most people, but if you are used to the way macOS works I understand that it doesn't feel right.

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[–]NuclearBadger 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

applefag can't linux. Not even surprised.

Pocket Popcorn Computer by [deleted] in Linux

[–]TheRealPanzer 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Linux ARM Notebooks by GeorgeCarlin in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I mostly use two laptops. One 12'' hp and one 14'' lenovo.

Thes formats are fine to work with, as long as the laptops themselves aren't too "old". I even like FullHD on 12'' .

Makes it natively hard to read my writing or code when i'm working in public places. But it surely is a question of "taste" or "habits".

Linux ARM Notebooks by GeorgeCarlin in Linux

[–]SoCo 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm digging the Pinebook Pro, but then again, I've been eye-balling the Pinephone Pro for awhile too, which is mostly the same machine. I don't know if I could stand such a small screen on a laptop though.

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[–]GeorgeCarlin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm still waiting for a "better"-usable RISC-V platform.

Until then i'll just keep on tinkering with "my" fpgas.

Especially this one is a nice chip.

Edit: this RISC-V chip at least looks nice though...

Edit 2 : Holy shit !... I just put money talks on my schedule... I didn't know this ! 700 $ only.. if it ain't out of stock though...

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[–]HongKongPhooey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

We tried to install Debian on a recent MacBook. Good luck, is all i can say. Since i never heard of this MacBook again. :)

Agree its not real option at the moment, just if I had to bet, Id bet someone gets that working before a Linux/ARM laptop with comparable hardware specs to a macbook is offered for sale. Would be happy to be proven wrong tho, bring on the ARM/Linux, I think this is the setup we all want

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[–]GeorgeCarlin[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

"We" tried to install Debian on a recent MacBook. Good luck, is all i can say. Since i never heard of this MacBook again. :)

My associate ragesold it.

But fyi: I'm not the "hardware-guy" of our group... i can't play this kind of extra-shallow bullshit-bingo that patiently... you know ?

Linux ARM Notebooks by GeorgeCarlin in Linux

[–]HongKongPhooey 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The Pinebook Pro is getting closer to something I could seriously use, but honestly I think they are closer to getting Linux to run natively on my ARM-based Apple Silicon Macbook Pro, which is a far more capable piece of hardware, and as much as I hate Apple is quite well engineered

What is ‘Load Average’? by johny_josi in Linux

[–]GeorgeCarlin 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I suppose she wanted a "mean" measurement in gallons... or ml rather...

I'd define a distribution for this... because obviously this is a time-continuous relation with some smooth-able singularities ... The "shots" so to say.

Integration... done... trivial "problem".

What is ‘Load Average’? by johny_josi in Linux

[–]chottohen 2 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

The angle of the dangle plus the heat of the meat, equals the load average.

"I love the Linux desktop, but that doesn't mean I don't see its problems all too well" by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]catfishrising 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How about Cinnamon? It's basically Gnome 3 whipped into shape.

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[–]Optimus85 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's the Swiss pocket knife of desktop environments; highly customizable. It's smooth and less buggy than it was a while ago and Dolphin works great too. I really enjoy using it.

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[–]chadwickofwv 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

KDE is awesome, but I can see why the extreme amount of options could confuse a normie. Also, yea, Thunar sucks. Install Dolphin instead.

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[–]Optimus85 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I use Pop! OS too but Gnome has turned to shit and using it aggravates me. I decided to install KDE Plasma a while back and it's a better experience overall. XFCE is worth a look too if you want a more simplistic and less bloated DE. Although Thunar, the file manager, had its issues.

"I love the Linux desktop, but that doesn't mean I don't see its problems all too well" by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Tums_is_Smut_bkwrds 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I've distro hopped for years. Generally my criteria was what ran best on the hardware I had at the time. The desktop was never that important since none of them were, frankly, outstanding. Once I got comfortable with their quirks they generally worked well enough to get the job done and that was all that was important. But my main PC was still Windows, because of games.

Then early this year I gave Pop!_OS a try on a whim. Five minutes and I was sold. It helped that 2022 is the year that gaming finally became a practical reality on Linux, but that's not limited to Pop. I can still dual boot to Windows if I need to, but I've only needed to 3 times so far.

Pop isn't perfect and there are some annoying design choices as a result of its Gnome heritage, but its a DE that is literally worth changing for.

"I love the Linux desktop, but that doesn't mean I don't see its problems all too well" by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Most Linux users probably perceive what this guy calls the "desktop" as a handy graphical application that helps with a few niche tasks, not as the thing that defines the whole OS. In other words, I don't care about superficial GUI differences between Ubuntu and Mint as long as Grep, Apache, GCC, Emacs, etc. work the same.

And as much as I hate Microsoft, this is kind of a "horses for courses" thing. If I need to crop an image on an Apple (*nix machine) I might run MSPaint in Parallels for that. I've been using it forever.

File Explorer is also vastly superior to Finder, and slightly better than whatever the Ubuntu analog is.

If I need to do complicated source control stuff on a Windows machine, I'll likely end up using MinGW or Cygwin.

How would you handle user access to "sudo" in a hypothetical decentralized software management ? by GeorgeCarlin in Linux

[–]raven9 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You grant specific trusted users access to sudo by making them members of the sudoers group and you restrict the commands each one of them can execute as sudo to only the commands you want them to be able to do.

PDFrankenstein is a GUI tool that intends to fill the gap on Linux where a good capable PDF annotator like Adobe Acrobat does not exist. by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]LarrySwinger2 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Note that there's also Hypothesis, which lets you annotate PDFs that you have open in a browser. It's a webapp but you can host your own instance.

PDFrankenstein is a GUI tool that intends to fill the gap on Linux where a good capable PDF annotator like Adobe Acrobat does not exist. by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]Anman 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The need to highlight the fact it is a GUI tool is why linux will never be mainstream.

The sad state of Linux desktop diversity: 21 environments, just 2 designs by TheRealPanzer in Linux

[–]LarrySwinger2 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's an interesting read and I can read this stuff for hours. However, I think he doesn't get his point across well. He gives us a romp through things that are actually available for the OS and it reminds you of how lovely that is; there's nothing sad about that at all. Furthermore, he has a rigid concept of what a user interface can be. First he hints at the fact that one can have a completely different type of user interface, then he shows you more of the same. All of these are derived from the PARC user interface. As people have mentioned, there are also tiling window managers. But there's much more radical stuff too, such as CLFSWM. He could've showed us the Xanadu project, which is an interface focused on linked hypermedia. Also, the article contains an error. It says graphical desktops go back to the '80s, but actually, one was already demonstrated in 1968 at The Mother of All Demos.