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[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Anarcho-capitalism is just neo-conservatives and neo-liberals role-playing as anarchists to try and win people over.

It's the type least compatible with all the other types of anarchism, from what I see. Because it basically calls for what the US has now, aka crony capitalism where big money can do whatever it wants. "Anarchy" where big capital rules over everything like it does now isn't really anarchism, imo.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

crony capitalism where big money can do whatever it wants

This state-capitalism. This far different from free-market capitalism

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

In free-market capitalism, the companies capture the state through a process called "regulatory capture", similar to the US today. Then the companies re-write the laws to favor themselves, resulting in state-capitalism as you say

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

In free-market capitalism, the companies capture the state through a process called "regulatory capture"

This isn't free-market, nor libertarianism. Without state's intervention on economy the market work by spontaneous order

[–]magnora7 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yes, and that spontaneous order is that corporations take over the government because it's the most profitable move

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

They don't take over government if the constitution respect free-market and property rights

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Doesn't matter what the constitution says, they have money so they buy politicians and the regulatory agencies. Happens in almost every country

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You're assuming that libertarian world everything would work perfectly, but this a fallacy. Conflicts would exist as exists today, but they would be solved in a better way: based on natural law and property rights.

See the fallacy you're committing:

Nirvana fallacy The nirvana fallacy is the informal fallacy of comparing actual things with unrealistic, idealized alternatives. It can also refer to the tendency to assume that there is a perfect solution to a particular problem. A closely related concept is the perfect solution fallacy.

By creating a false dichotomy that presents one option which is obviously advantageous—while at the same time being completely implausible—a person using the nirvana fallacy can attack any opposing idea because it is imperfect. Under this fallacy, the choice is not between real world solutions; it is, rather, a choice between one realistic achievable possibility and another unrealistic solution that could in some way be "better".

[–]magnora7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No I'm not assuming it would work perfectly, in fact I'm arguing the opposite in this conversation

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You assumed that libertarian arguments are invalid just because it won't give us a perfect social order, but as i said: [in a libertarian society] conflicts would exist as exists today, but they would be solved in a better way: based on natural law and property rights

[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Afraid I don't understand it. ELI5 please?

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

This a mockery about libertarians who support open-borders policy

[–]sawboss 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Awesome! Would you mind explaining in brief why open borders are a poor idea for libertarians?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Would you mind explaining in brief why open borders are a poor idea for libertarians?

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