“Abandoning the lesbian label and create something else”

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[–]Jillyjanejan 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ok. So how come the Lesbians/Lesbosians haven't been able to claim Lesbian back if it's so easy to just choose what people are called? They must be weak. Oh well. That's their fault for being weak and not fighting hard enough then, right?

Also, thanks to straight people (the majority), homosexual women and men are called queer by the public now whether we like it or not (and research shows that most of us don't). We (the minority) don't have as much say in these matters as you think.

[–]ColoredTwice 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Word "queer" is still used as a slur where I live against gay men, so when people want to troll or attack LGB person they can say "LGBTQueer community" and it can be already insulting.

It is mostly heterosexual men who are deciding how everyone is called in LGBT+, not LGB themselves.

[–]Jillyjanejan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It is mostly heterosexual men who are deciding how everyone is called in LGBT+

we can't give them all the credit. Heterosexual women also love to call lesbians and gays "queer". They love calling themselves queer too. So many straight women calling themselves queer that I just translate it automatically to "straight" in my mind now.

[–]SailorMoon2020 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

able to claim Lesbian back if it's so easy to just choose what people are called? They must be weak. Oh well. That's their fault for being weak and not fighting hard enough then, right?

If that's how you feel towards them then I can't control that. However, America is a powerful country and what we do, many developing countries follow. The island of Lesbos is small and their voices aren't as loud as a result. They desire to have that word and there are organizations trying for it.

I understand their plight and once I came upon their movement, I agreed with it. Considering how "woke" the queer community has become and how hostile they come toward that one word, 'lesbian' as a result of the history behind it, I think there's a chance.

[–]Jillyjanejan 10 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 0 fun11 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't think you understood my point. I was trying to show you that minorities (such as people from Lesbos and homosexual women) don't have much influence in these matters, it's has nothing to do with being weak. If you want to rally the woke crowd and get them to help give Lesbian back to the people from Lesbos, go for it. That's more productive than whining.

[–]SailorMoon2020 1 insightful - 5 fun1 insightful - 4 fun2 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I did not understand that point, that is correct.

The type of crowd does not matter. I'm already apart of a few Mediterranean and Nordic LGBT organizations that tackle this subject. So yes, hopefully we are being productive. Time will tell!