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[–]censorshipment 2 insightful - 19 fun2 insightful - 18 fun3 insightful - 19 fun -  (7 children)

Unpopular opinion: I think butches (such as myself) should only date bi women. Femmes should date femmes so lesbian couples won't be mistaken for straight couples if the butches are manly (like me). Femme4femme is the proper representation of a lesbian couple, so I try to encourage femmes who want to date me to date femmes.

[–]votkriscan 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That is a rather unique perspective. I've very rarely seen a butch4femme butch woman defend femme4femme like this. Over at my end, there are sometimes arguments between butch4femme and femme4femme lesbians. Even though I'm femme4femme, I've often thought that butch/butch lesbian women are far more natural and authentic in their romances and relationships than even femme/femme or butch/femme.

Where I'm at, the butch/femme demographic does have the largest number of straight/bisexual femme women(who exclusively date butch women). However, lesbian femmes(who exclusively date butch women) still exist and it's a good thing when both can find each other.

[–]Elvira95 8 insightful - 9 fun8 insightful - 8 fun9 insightful - 9 fun -  (5 children)

Straight women date masculine women? The straight types of women who hate men, I suppose

[–]votkriscan 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Ironically, they are really not that sort. It's actually because it's clear that they are romantically and sexually attracted to men, that it's obvious they are not gay. As to why, many reasons, from a greater availability of people to date, curiosity, a desire for different treatment that what they are currently getting out of men..etc..

Dating a woman is also fairly consequence-free. No live penis near the vagina or anywhere else. No pregnancy. And leaving lesbian relationships (and gay ones for the matter) are way easier than leaving heterosexual ones.

[–]Elvira95 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I don't get it. Like they have a gigantic dating pool- It would make more sense for a lesbian to date men, it the problem were greater avaiability of people to date. But that would not be possible, since we're not attracted to dick. I guess if they date a stone butch, they might avoid licking pussy, making it more tolerable

[–]votkriscan 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh for sure. But I must clarify that it's not every straight woman who is interested in butch women. It's just that the proportion is larger in comparison to the other two lesbian demographics.

[–]strictly 11 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 0 fun12 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's actually because it's clear that they are romantically and sexually attracted to men, that it's obvious they are not gay.

They could be bisexual, into both sexes. A bisexual woman can lean heterosexual and have a narrow type in women. But if she has a type in woman then I wouldn’t call her straight.

Dating a woman is also fairly consequence-free. No live penis near the vagina or anywhere else. No pregnancy.

As a lesbian I wouldn’t want to be with a man even if he had had a penis amputation. I wouldn’t care how much being open to such men would increase my dating pool as I’m not into men so forcing myself to be with someone I don’t want to be with would just be pointless torture. I have assumed straight women feel like me regarding women as I feel about men, that it would be torture for them to be in a sexual/romantic relationship with a woman. I don’t think lack of pregnancy risk provides enough motivation for a woman to have sex with someone who is sexually repelling to her. If she doesn’t want to get pregnant she could choose to not have sex at all and thus avoid sex that would be repelling to her. And if she likes sex with women then I don’t think she can be considered straight, she would be bisexual.

[–]votkriscan 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are definitely right. I have no clue what it's like to date a MTF (a man identifying as a woman) either, precisely because I'm a lesbian. But before I go on, I need to re-state that it's not every straight woman who does this, but just a portion of them. I presume they were straight, because that's what some of the other lesbians were calling them, amongst other things. So, I was hazarding some guesses as to why, and benefit dating might just be one of the reasons. Unlike MTFs, some lesbians (in this case, butch lesbians), could treat their partners like queens. Thus, together with the fact that there are no consequences to being with a woman, such a thing could be possible despite not being attracted.